Behringer X-Touch Universal Control Surface Reviews

I recently purchased the Behringer X-Touch Universal Control Surface from Sweetwater, and I couldn't be happier with my purchase! This control surface has completely transformed the way I approach mixing and editing in my home studio.

The X-Touch provides a sleek and intuitive interface for controlling my DAW, with a wide range of faders, knobs, and buttons that allow me to control everything from track levels to plugin parameters. The unit feels sturdy and well-built, with a smooth and responsive feel to all the controls.

In addition to the X-Touch itself, I want to give a special shoutout to Tom Phillips at Sweetwater for his incredible customer service. Tom went above and beyond to make sure that I had all the information I needed to make an informed decision about my purchase, and he even helped me troubleshoot a few issues I was having with my setup. I can't thank him enough for his hard work and dedication to making sure that his customers are taken care of.

Overall, I would highly recommend the Behringer X-Touch Universal Control Surface to anyone looking for a versatile and powerful control surface for their home studio. And if you're shopping at Sweetwater, be sure to ask for Tom Phillips - he'll take great care of you!

Loved the x touch and extender i had and added an additional extender. Installed through a router with rtpmidi and all is working perfectly! 24 tracks + 1 master volume.

Great addition to the x32 and daw. Ordered the extension and ordering 1 more. Found a way to connect the chassis permanently to make 1 solid unit, this should be an option for this line. Cut down my work time greatly and allowed more focus on my projects. Rock on Sweetwater!

I use it for adding dexterity to a X32 rack , love it!

If you pair this with an X-Air mixer, it is invaluable. This mixer can obviously pair with a DAW, but lesser known is that it can pair with an X32 or XR-18 module. We throw this on top of our mixer when we perform, and bandmates or friends can go adjust the settings while we play. It's actually a very useful tool, especially if you can't just open a tablet or phone during a performance. It's vital that everyone in the band learn how to use it, but it's invaluable in the moment when you're trying to mix sound from on the stage.

I got the Behringer XR18 mixer about a year ago, which I use primarily as a home studio mixer and USB interface for Reaper. I was looking for a control surface to make it easier to control the DAW while recording, provide a tactile interface when mixing and make it a little easier for automation and editing. The X-Touch checks all of these boxes. In addition it simultaneously acts as a detached control surface for the X-Air mixers. With the push of a button (literally) the unit switches back and forth from controlling my DAW to controlling the XR18.

The Mackie Control (MCU) interface gives you most of your basic DAW controls with no setup or customization required. Transport controls including jog wheel, volume faders, mute, solo, record arm, pan, gain, digital scribble strips, etc. are all there "out of the box." Other out of the box functionality will depend on the DAW your using. In Reaper, additional controls like automation and plugin controls can be configured or customized by using the CSI plugin.

The X-Touch is a little bigger and heavier than I expected, but it feels sturdy and well built with a metal case and controls that are easy to manipulate. The knobs, buttons and sliders are all working reliably for the month I've had it.

So far there are only two things I found could be improved:
1. A weighted jog wheel would have been nice.

2. Just be aware that the X-Touch can connect to a computer via USB cable or network (using RTPMidi), but if you want to connect to a computer AND an X-Air mixer at the same time, you must connect to the computer via USB and the mixer via network. It would be nice to be able to use the X-Touch for both via just an ethernet cable. Maybe we'll get that in a firmware upgrade...

Even with m1 Macs this product is plug n play with Logic Pro!

Sure going to make everything easier. Got some work to do in setting up, but is going to great..

I love the X-Touch! I own a number of MIDI devices, but the X-Touch is my first control surface. I use this with my Behringer XR18 and Studio One, and it works brilliantly between both of them. I have 1 button access to switch between the DAW and the mixer, and I can control all the vital functions I need for either stage performance or working in the studio. I can also customize the buttons if I need to enable a function.

The faders are more quiet than I would have expected, and their resolution is awesome. The jog wheel is a very nice feature which lets me focus on a track at a detailed level. The buttons feel durable and of good quality. The unit is sturdy and has a solid feel. It is a little heavier than I expected.

When working with Studio One (my DAW of choice), I can navigate through my 40+ tracks, zoom in and out, change plug-in settings, change the mix, queue up specific areas that need work, begin recording, playback specific tracks (or everything), save my work, etc... without ever touching the mouse! This will speed up my workflow for sure.

When working with the XR18, I can set the gain on each channel, change mix volumes and panning (of course), change bus outputs for each channel, tweak EQ settings, assign effects to channels, ring out the monitors, etc... and my hands don't have to leave the X-Touch. I love using this much more than the iPad, the Android app, or X-Air Edit. I definitely like being able to control multiple fader values at the same time. And the visual feedback immediately lets me know what is where at a glance. Very nice.

All in all, I am very happy with Sweetwater and the X-Touch!

After doing a lot of research on Control Surfaces I finally decided on the X-Touch and I wasn't
disappointed when I receive my Purchase from Sweetwater. The quality was much better than expected,
and it's size was perfect for the space in my home studio. The faders are very responsive and controls have a nice feel to them. You get a lot of functionality for the $.
Getting the X-Touch to work with Cakewalk Sonar was by watching the videos listed below, downloading the Overlay, printing and cutting it out (the mapping on the X-Touch is not laid out for Sonar so the overlay is essential). The key to getting the most functionality from the X-Touch is through the Mackie
Control plugin within Sonar.(see photo) With this dialog open press F1 for Help and there you will find detailed info on using the X-Touch to control EQ, and other plugins. This Help file can also be found at
C:Program Files/Cakewalk/Shared Surfaces/Mackie Control
After doing all this I can say that the X-Touch is working very well and I'm very happy that I decided to go for it, hope this helps other Sonar users.

YouTube videos:
X Touch One with Sonar or Cakewalk
Making the X-Touch work with Cakewalk Sonar Pt#1
Making the X-Touch work with Cakewalk Sonar Pt#2

This thing is GREAT. Connection to a WIFI (I use a Netgear WIFI router instead of the internal connection) via CAT 6 ethernet cable. I supposed I could get a second WIFI router set to "extend network mode" and have a wireless connection on the XTOUCH side, but I don't need that. To be explored further.

A good reason to have a wired connection to the WIFI router for the XTouch (or a computer for that matter), is that if you are 100% dependent upon an iPad or similar connected via WIFI, and anything interferes with the wifi connection, for example a REALLY busy WIFI environment like at a show where everyone has their iPhones on, etc., you may have difficulty controlling things from time to time on the XR18. The wired connection for the XTouch is great: never any interference.

It runs as advertised, but you do not have control over everything, like signal routing. SO you still need the XAIR app on your iPad or computer to set that up. But you should have all of that done and saved prior to your live events; the XTouch is best for adjusting channel volumes, muting, channel EQ, etc. And with moving faders so you can see at a glance what's happening.

I love it.

Since it follows the Mackie control protocol, I pretty much knew what to expect when I bought this and it didn't disappoint. I was also pleasantly surprised by the solid feel of the buttons and jog wheel. It's got some substance to it, too. Nothing feels cheap about it. The YouTube Behringer channel has good how-to videos on the X-Touch. I think that's the best place to learn about it. I bought an inexpensive laptop stand to angle it towards me and a couple of USB gooseneck lamps so I can easily work it in an otherwise dark room. Once you get used to using a control surface, they really do speed up your workflow. Good job, Behringer!

My DAW: Logic Pro X.
How I use this: Tracking, dubbing, and mixing in a project studio.

I said in an earlier review that I could not find a way to get to more XR18 parameters and adjustments. And that there is skimpy documentation. Well, I did a larger search on the music tribe (Behringer) and found the most complete documentation that is there: the Firmware 1.15 update document: basically what everything does, how to get to it, and how to set up the X-Touch with a variety of compatible devices, including the Xr18, X18, X16, and X12 devices.

I have not spent a lot of time using this but, other than a few glitches upon first setting up (my oversights) it's been fantastic. So much easier to have transport controls and faders at your finger tips. The layout is intuitive and the workflow is so much smoother. No more hunt and click with the cursor. I can be on my instrument and quickly make adjustments and run the transport. IG highly recommend having a control surface and for a moderately priced unit the Behringer XTouch is top notch.

So far I've been pleasantly surprised with the X-Touch's (v 1.21) integration with Digital Performer 11. An overlay is still needed to correctly identify most of the deeper level button assignments. I haven't found one that accurately describes DP11's integration with X-Touch. I will attempt to explain the general functions and what works correctly and what is assigned to what general buttons on the board. Set up in DP is MCU compatible, Pin to Mixer, MCU main, X-Touch INT-1, X-Touch INT. Set up in X-Touch should be MC, USB. This should get you connected between DP and X-Touch. Turing on the X-Touch first and then starting up DP11 insures that you'll be connected.

As far as I can tell, all of the transport buttons work as they should. The exception is the RTZ function. It is the button labeled Marker.
Each individual channel's buttons and faders work as described, as well as the track names in the scribble windows. The rotatable pots on top of each channel has the Pan encoder assignment as being the normal state when the board starts up. Hitting Send will control the Send Ins on the audio channels. To switch to Send 2 you'll need to hit the bottom button on the button layout next to the jog wheel.

Pressing IO had some interesting responses, and goes fairly deep. Along the scribble script on top there are a list of choices that you can choose from by pressing the appropriate pot down. I haven't had time to find these deep operations practical. It is much easier when working from DP itself. The rest of the soft buttons on the top row didn't produce any practical results during my testing. That is not to say that they don't control anything. I just haven't had the time to dig deeper to discover them yet. They are EQ Plugin and Dyn.

I'm going to skip to the bottom of the board since this is the bread and butter operations of using the X-Touch. Starting with the Fader Bank buttons. These work as written. Pressing them shifts tracks 8 at a time according to the line up in DPs Tracks window. The Channel buttons shifts the channels in the X-Touch one track at a time instead of 8 tracks at a time, like the Fader Bank does.

Concerning the four arrow buttons arranged around a middle button. If you press the arrows while in Tracks, Sequence, or Midi windows, it will advance the information by one page. If you press the center button it will turn blue. Then you can resize the information in the Tracks, Sequence, and Midi windows either vertically or horizontally. Just be aware that the Pan button at the top needs to be lit, otherwise you will still be switching Send or Plugin inputs. When I pressed the middle button a second time the blue button started flashing, but I could not determine what that particular functionality did in DP11. (Maybe, time out for an espresso?)

And lastly, the jog wheel. It does work in DP11. It moves the sequence ahead by quarter notes. The scrub button moves the time line ahead at a snail's pace, sometimes... I haven't figured out how to increase/decrease the scrub speed on the wheel.

All in all, from my perspective, it does what I need it to do. Mainly, select tracks for recording, reposition and resizing for playing and midi editing and performing rough mixes on the fly while recording or editing. And most importantly, stops me from mousing around too much, while trying to get work done.

And don't forget, the Marker button is the RTZ, and is your friend. ;)

real talk it is Amazing and Awesome and cool and I really enjoy it can't live without it !! Thanks Sweetwater! And my kids are the candy in box lol and I branded my toy with the sticker!! Get it and Keep on trucking baaaaby!!

We use this as a DAW controller for Ableton and it's a charm! It was very simple to connect after a video from Behringer on YouTube. It's snappy and the faders are smooth. I can't wait to get the x32 to connect to for remote control link.

Wonderful equipment.

This review is coming from a performing musician that just recently got into recording. I see many experienced engineer friends use only a mouse to navigate their DAW, but for inexperienced users like myself it helps to have something physical that I can touch to adjust volume, settings, etc. This workstation has given me a lot of great tools to expand my editing skills. I used to get frustrated trying to do all my editing with just a mouse and realized I needed more tools to speed up my editing process. Now I can quickly get good mixes and move onto the next song.

The Behringer X-Touch is exactly what I was looking for. Its size, LEDs, motorized faders and other controls are simply awesome. I use Cubase 9.5 and together they work very well. It didn't take much time to configure it.
In the other hand, Nick Huskins was a great advisor and the customer service was really good.
Thanks Sweetwater!

This is the device that I"ve waited for my whole Logic career-and that"s a career that goes back to eMagic, Notator, and 1991. I"m not a full-time for work user anymore-but I keep my skills sharp. This device is completely plug and play in Logic. I updated the firmware, set it for MTU and USB, and that was it. Everything works. I mean everything… You can adjust plug-ins, flying fade or mixers… The scrub wheel… Half a dozen other handy features you"ve not thought of before. It has the transport LED bar right on it! It"s literally a part of the computer-it feels that integrated. Completely amazing!

This controller is so much more then I could have ever hoped for! It works extremely well with both Reaper and Studio One version 3, and works perfectly and effortlessly with my Behringer XR18 Air... a word to the wise: if you are not familiar with this type of gear, as I was not when I first purchased it, you will have to seek out instruction and advice, on how to do things like updating the firmware, and getting all of the devices and software talking to each other. I spoke with Behringer customer service, and they were fantastic as they walked me through that initial process. Once I was over that hump at the beginning, I was amazed at how easy it was to use this device! I definitely highly recommend the X Touch!

It's really good product,it make my mixing become easy and good for live band too.
10.0 star

At first I was disappointed the scribble strips did not function in color as indicated by the X-Touch ads. However, the X-Touch, coulped with Mackie Control, interfaced extremely well with logic Pro X Version 3.1. The features and ease of operation streamlined the editing process for me, and the affordable price is a huge plus.

Once again thanks to the great sales staff at Sweetwater, you're the best.

Happy recording,
Ray

There is still no real owners information is included with the unit. Behringer has lots of useful videos on YouTube to help Logic X users understand the X-Touch.

Honestly, I think the X in X-Touch is a nod to the X in Logic X because the two are perfectly matched to each other. I set the X-Touch to MC (Mackie Control) and USB as the interface and instantly I was working inside Logic X.

The hands-on features provided by the X-Touch are a joy, everything works as it should and this does make it much faster than working with a mouse. X-Touch puts all these features into hardware buttons and faders that just work. Using Logic X is much faster and easier to navigate with the X-Touch.

If you're on Logic X you should get one of these. It's very easy to set up and after watching a few short videos on YouTube you'll be navigating and editing like a pro.

I have an X-32 I bought in 2012 that I'm using as my audio interface. Zero problems or confilcts with it and X-Touch on the USB ports of my 2015 Mac Pro.

These products from Behringer are amazing. I can't deduct points for the lack of documentation because it works like a quality Apple product, you plug it in and everything feels right.

Good music to all!

Excellent tool for working with Logic. Instant access to so many shortcuts, automation, and general mix down tools, all at the touch of buttons and motorized faders makes editing a project more of a joy rather than a task.

In a word... WOW! What an incredible time saver, and SO dead -simple! Using this X-touch DAW console makes my workflow four times faster right out of the box. I'm using it with Logic Pro X and it gets you right up close and personal with the entire Record, Mix, Engineering, and Mastering chores. To get the most from this console you must go through the many YouTube videos and take notes; but it's so, so easy to "get it" quickly. This controller/console is built nice and heavy (nothing wimpy here!) and every function is laid out exactly where you want it to be. Somebody actually thought this thing out! You won't have any regrets when you purchase this board!
Note: I really considered getting a Slate screen; but after seeing how incredibly complex the learning curve is to actually get it to do all the cool things in the promo videos, I got a bit leery. I wanted something I could actually put my hands on and feel the controls, so I did a lot of research. After using the X-Touch from Behringer I am so glad I chose this route. If you're a "hands-on" type of person, you won't regret choosing the X-Touch!

Using this with the XAir XR18. With a cheap external router I was up and running is seconds!

Once you get the settings done properly this controller works great. I have so much more and better control now while editing. The only thing that would make it better would be a Sonar specific overlay to correctly show the button mapping.

This is my first control surface as a SONAR user for more than 25 years. Was not sure what to expect, especially with the particular unit, seeing many disparaging reviews and comments and forum posts.

I'm very familiar, like back of hand, with keyboard and mouse control of SONAR. The X-Touch will very soon be as familiar. The layout is smart, capable, and fat-finger friendly. Just about every command I'll use every day, and every other week, is available on the surface. And those that aren't, if I find myself needing something, I can always program a function key and replace as necessary.

My setup was very simple and quick, after reading a few lines of the quick start guide, a few forum posts, and a YouTube vid. If you have questions, specifically regarding SONAR and X-Touch, feel free to hit me up as magek on the Cakewalk forum.

The ONLY thing really missing for the X-Touch is an overlay for the right-side buttons that are, like the mother ship Mackie, labeled for Logic. I've found a PDF or 2 that I can print and cut, but I don't want to have to do that exercise often.

I was bit skeptical because Behringer has let me down in the past. However the Xtouch is just what I needed and I'm 100% satisfied. If you use Logic Pro X this is a great purchase.

I love it!!! I'm not a true "mixer" as to say, but this thing is simple to use. Still trying to figure out everything on it, but I love it so far. Thumbs up!!!!

First of all, thank you Jeff Law and company for such kind, gentle and professional sales service. I do not think there is not other store at this service level. About the X-Touch I believe it is an amazing product that works perfect with most of DAW's that supports HUI protocols. I am not a fan of Beringher products, but I have to recognize that the product feels very profesional and affordable. There is nothing like this on the same price range. Speaking of Pro Tools integration, most of the functions work as espected: faders, panning, transport, sends, automation modes and ballistics. I knew not all the functions would not work (plug ins recall and automation) because Pro Tools uses the EUCON protocol, but I think this fact should not stop Pro Tools users to get the X-Touch, since it works amazing. Other DAW's such as DP8 and Logic have better integration, so if you are one of those that uses multiple platforms, this product is a time saver.

Really nice DAW controller, easy to use with light and beautiful design.

I have both the X-touch and Mackie MCU PRO, which is what the x-touch is based from.
It works exactly like the MCU PRO, so it does what it says it does, and for 500 less than the Mackie plus having an extra usb port dock, ethernet and midi interface? it is a steal.
It will control the X series interfaces from behringer which will let the LCDs be coloured and have icons.

I always had problems with the LCDs from the Mackie MCU PRO and had to buy some extra lcd displays, some of them die after a year or so. I also like that I have separate LCDs on the X-touch.
I like the jog illuminated because why not? its cool.
I do prefer the black colour of the control surface over the grey or almost white as the MCU PRO or QCON pro.

Recommended !!!

I give this controller 5 stars because it seems to do what Mackie control is supposed to do ! it did take some days of experimenting to figure out the layout for sonar platinum key functions & seeing every daw has it's own language it would take awhile for behringer to have a complete of cammands & even in the same daw it changes from time to time ! so late makes it hard to list all the daw protocals & I find everyday it is getting easier to find & remember functions but I'm getting fast & moreaccurate mixing likei di on anolog consoles ! oi see know problem with this controller & it's well built ! users need to realize there is learning curve & I know longer seem to be getting mouse fatigue ! I kmow I havemore to learn!

It is a control surface, not a general midi controller. This gear work like a Mackie Surface control. You don't' need any doc because the surface control works differently with each software. Look in our DAW documentation for MCU. If you have problem with a specific software, you will have the same problem with a MCU. My only complain is that with the Mackie, you can buy template overlay for your favorite software (Cubase, sonar, pro-tool, Live...) but with this one (for now) you have to label your button. (Search Google for Mackie control overlay for the mapping). I have post my own overlay for Sonar on cakewalk forum and the overlay for cubase are already on x-touch forum.

The X Touch is greater than expected,if you have talent Sweetwater has the tool for you. FedEx delivery was disapointing, but product is exelent.

Yes it's a little pricey for what it can do, but it does those functions well. I'm still exploring how to do some of the things that the X Air app does easily.

I got this to have a simpler interface for simple things, like main levels, input gains, etc for both rehearsal and live situations. I've found at a couple of shows that there was so much WIFI interference that even with a 5GHz router, the walkaround engineer and his iPad would have delays and dropouts. And if the iPad wifi fails, then the XR18 us a useless brick. The X-Touch gives me a hardwired connection for the functions you'll likely need at a show with a simple CAT5 cable (mine is 50').

Some of the functionality that's missing (or I haven't found yet) like easily sending things to various busses (like the effects returns ...) and routing to Ultranet for P16M use is unlikely to be needed at a live show after setup; the engineer is basically just setting channel levels to MAIN, and doing mutes.

The ease of setting input gain is also very helpful, even live. If a guitarist changes his amp level (volume, direct out control, whatever), it's a simple knob twist on the channel to deal with too low a level or the usual case with guitar players, distortion because the level is hotter than during sound check.

I recommend the XTouch as an good addition to an XR18 set up.

Very useful and fun. Integrates seamlessly with Logic. Beats using a mouse to adjust everything.

This controller is actually very well built. The case is a metal top, hard, presumably ABS plastic sides (dont burn it!). The faders have a plastic feel to them, but they do not wobble and move smoothly. The motors are a bit jerky when playing back automation, but this is actually a firmware issue and has nothing to do with the accuracy of the fader itself. There is a fix available unofficially, and will most likely be officially corrected in an update if it's possible to.


Speaking of fader accuracy, it is important to keep in mind that most fader controllers use MIDI data to transmit this information. MIDI parameters have a value from 0 to 127, that means there are 128 "steps" for the computer to read from your fader. That's accurate enough for most applications, since the human ear cannot really discern an eighth of a decibel of volume difference. That's about how many dB there are between "steps" of fader accuracy. This is also why the faders seem "jerky" when playing back automation. It's not interpolated data, so what do you expect?

The Presonus Faderport has 1024 steps of accuracy, but ONLY in Studio One. If you do not use Studio One, this is the controller for you. It is half the price of a Mackie MCU, with all of the features.


List of DAWs this works with:

ALL OF THEM. If you have an issue with setting yours up, a google search can give you the information you need. If your DAW supports MCU (Mackie Control protocols) then this will transmit fader data. Each DAW's MCU layout is different, so if you have a complaint, don't direct it at Behringer, direct it at your DAW for having inferior MCU setup.

COLORED SCRIBBLE STRIPS DO NOT WORK IN YOUR DAW. Don't be fooled by the picture. They will ONLY work with the X-Air series mixers, which you have to set in the app itself per channel. So if colored channels are important to you for your DAW, this will not do it for you. However, I use this with the XR18, and the colors DO work when controlling the mixer. This is an example of Behringer trying hard to create their own ecosystem. In my opinion, it's really not that bad at all. It actually works very smoothly with the X-Air.

No one likes vocal riding with a mouse. Nor does anyone actually enjoy writing automation. Do yourself a favor and elevate your DAW control system. Your clients will be impressed too.

4.5 stars because nothing is truly a 5 star product.

At first I wasn"t sure what I did to deserve my lost n found
Surplus floating around the finance dept @ SW, but heck, I"ll take it Thanks B.G. : )

So far this unit has integrated easily with LPX and PT12
To be honest, I haven"t been readily available to delve into this unit as much as I"d like to due to band/admin/show planning work, but what I"ve experienced has been
very nice. It is true, as some have pointed out, the faders are perhaps a little noisy, but that"s easy to deal with (turn it off ... or turn up 3dB .. carefully). The speed in which the touch sensitivity works is pretty remarkable. The setup was a cinch actually (read the manual, Behringer tells you exactly what to do..as does Phil Gates on YouTube). This unit practically sets itself up. It"s slightly on the bulky side, not as "Low-Pro" as the Avid units, but whatever it looks like a mini X32 ... and those don"t suck. Unless the source does, that they can"t help you with ..

I bought the X Touch for 2 reasons. I own the XR18 which I totally love and I wanted a physical control surface for mixing bands live. This unit works very well for said purpose. There is a bit of a learning curve but once you get it you are good to go. I hope there are future updates to the units software to make things a little more seamless if you will, but as is it works well. The second reason I bought this unit was to be the master control unit for my studio. I use Sonar X1 and I also use Studio ONE 3. This unit works very well with both software, but their is a huge learning curve. I cant really blame the X Touch on that I guess, but rather how well the software implements the Mackie protocol. So far I would say that the unit behaves more nicely with Studio ONE, but there is less functionality. In Sonar there is much more functionality, but nothing makes much sense at all. A lot of things work, but which button you press to do whatever function just does not make much sense. Once again, cant really blame the X Touch on that. I use the XR18 as my studio console which now that I have learned how to use it, it is awesome for studio use as well. With the XR18 I have 18 inputs and 7 total outputs. 4 Stereo outputs. And you can assign almost the entire matrix. The X touch is great because with one button touch you switch between controlling your studio software or the XR18 and the entire time you have motorized faders and they are extremely fast and jump back and forward between studio software and control board immediately. I am very happy with my purchase so far with live use and studio use. Going to make me some overlay templates that I can slip on for all uses. Sweetwater was great to work with as well as usual. Good customer service and fast shipping.

Pulled this unit from the box, plugged everything in and checked the setting. My MAC and Logic Pro recognized it right away, and it's been a ton of fun and extremely useful for me thus far. Just about all of the important functions in Logic are accessible with this controller. Really satisfied with it

Like always I needed some gear ASAP. Called my rep Devin and he had this out to me in a jiffy. Great value, bought this to use with my xr18 and it works flawlessly! Brought it home and it integrates right into my workflow. 1/2 a star off because the setup between Ethernet and usb is a little clunky but functional.

Very pleased with how this works with the REAPER DAW right out of the box. I plugged it into power, turned it on, set it to Mackie Control (MC) via USB, plugged it into my Mac via a USB cable, and started REAPER. At startup REAPER scanned the MIDI busses, found the XTouch via the virtual USB MIDI path, and automatically configuered it.

Haven't yet found a good definitive mapping of Xtouch buttons to REAPER functions, or how to customize the mappings. But even with just a couple days of playing around I'm much more productive than when trying to use a mouse to set and adjust automation envelopes.

Also used it on Sunday for a live male quartet gig, controlling an X32 mixer via Xedit on a Windows laptop. This time the virtual MIDI bus ran via Ethernet to the laptop. A bit of a hack but it worked. For now that lashed together setup is why I'm only rating this as 4.5 stars rather than a full 5.

I am a long time Behringer skeptic, but this one is good. Motorized faders feel good, nothing laggy, and selecting tiny gradients is accurate. Only reason it's not a 5/5 is because I would have appreciated a bank of customizable buttons instead of dedicated buttons for each universal encoder setting. Dedicated pans would have been sufficient, if I want more encoders I'll buy another device for that.

It seems most of the positive praise is from Logic users and yes I am one of them. It does what it claims as the videos feature Logic instances. My only complaint so far is the position of the scribble screens. They are flat and difficult to read unless you are elevated considerably when using the X-Touch.
Built like a tank and priced competitively. I highly recommend this product for Logic users.

Prior to purchasing the Behringer X-Touch I controlled my DAW software with only a mouse. The X-Touch has increased my productivity ten fold! I use this controller in conjunction with a Mackie ProFX22 mixer and a Tascam 16 x 08 audio interface. The control surface was plug & play right out of the box.Well built, solid construction and give complete control over every parameter of the software at half the cost of other equivalent controllers. I highly recommend the X-Touch, a must for your studio!

Very nice and controller set up integrated especially for Logic Pro X. Love it !

Works great for what I need. Motorized Faders, rotary encoders, MSR buttons for each track, and a jog/scrub wheel are what I really wanted. I'm using it in Reaper as a Mackie Control unit, and it does all of that and more. I've even mapped a few custom actions to other buttons / etc.

Only slight con...documentation. It wasn't great, and it took me some digging online to realize that I had to boot it in "USB" mode to get it to work that way. That's not the default...and it's not intuitive to know that you have to do it. Overall, great build quality, warranty, and functionality for what I need.

Finally, I got my hands on it! I looked it over, but made the mistake of not reading the manual because so many reviewers said it was basically useless (do NOT believe this; there was a critical step I missed because I didn't read the manual). Anyway, I was excited about the possibilities. It's solidly built, the buttons, knobs and faders have a good-quality feel and the motorized faders are very quiet when they move and they are very responsive to what's going on in your audio production software. It would have been nice if the scribble strip displays were angled a bit toward the user, but that's not a deal-breaker by any means.

I recently upgraded my computer to Windows 10 and I went ahead and upgraded Cubase to version 8.5 in anticipation of receiving the X-Touch. I connected the X-Touch to the computer via USB and first thing I did was downloaded and pushed the firmware upgrade (which is supposed to resolve some known issues involving Cubase). I highly recommend this as a first step (there's a YouTube video explaining how).

Then I launched Cubase, followed the instructions in the Cubase manual for installing remote devices and set it up as an MCU device and...nothing. Nothing whatsoever. The scribble strips and jog wheel ring were lit but nothing else. Complete brick. I fumbled around with it for over an hour, rebooting, disconnecting/reconnecting, changing settings, etc. Finally, I was about to give up and commit to trying again the next day and returning it if I didn't get it to work and in the meantime sent a message to Behringer support.

Then I discovered a crucial step on page 16 of the manual, which is that you have to configure the unit to emulate either HUI or MCU and also configure its connection type for MIDI, USB or Network. Once I made the correct settings there, BAM! Worked like a charm. On the Behringer forum, I found a link to a printable overlay that labels the buttons for the way Cubase implements the Mackie MCU Protocol (this is different for different audio production software). I printed it and painstakingly cut out the button holes and I'm sailing smoothly now.

I still have a few things to learn and do, like programming soft buttons for the common functions I need and using the rotary knobs for certain settings I now still use the mouse for, but overall, it's working beautifully. I'm already getting used to not reaching for the mouse for certain functions.

I have to say that I usually always, ALWAYS read manuals for products before I even finish unpacking them and plugging in, but this one time, listening to other reviewers, I neglected that step and it led to frustration and to almost returning a powerful, useful piece of equipment. I recommend you ignore such reviewers and always read product manuals before you start using any device, even if you've used that type of device before. You might not know what headache or hassle you might avoid by doing so.

In closing, I did deduct half a star because the manual is so bereft of practical information other than initial setup, and that is to Behringer's shame. They really owe buyers of a $600 control surface more than that! I'm very disappointed in that, but that disappointment is mitigated by the great functionality of the device. Initial setup headaches notwithstanding, I recommend this as the best MIDI control surface out there, that, although a bit pricey, actually carries a price that is closer to reasonable and fair than anything else out there.

I forgot to mention the important install of the firmware upgrade from Behringer, to 1.14... it's easy using the recommended Bome SxSend free software. All is good!

I mentioned in my first review that the x-touch behaves differently depending on it's emulation mode, but i forgot to mention that it also depends on the os as well. Case in point, in Mac os x using pro tools in HUI mode the level meters on each channel work, in Windows 8.1 and pro tools in HUI mode, the level meters do not work. Also when you read a review make sure you know what firmware is on the machine that the reviewer is using. There is a video on Youtube on cubase 8.x by pops who states that the bars / timecode display does not work. With ver 1.14 loaded, It works fine in cubase switching between timecode and bars / beats. As I said before if you combine this with the ipad app Pro Tools control and setup your custom softkeys you will be very happy. Also another thing to note. Even though the app is called Pro tools control... It is a EUCON prtocol app so once you load the latest Eucon software on your computer it will also work with cubase and logic so the free app plus the X-touch is killer for me without having to spend a fortune... The faders, select muteand solo work immediately. The nice surprise is the undo button which also reverses fader movements ...love it .... Save works fine..... I'm good with the unit.

I updated the firmware first and it was easy to do and there is a Youtube video which you should add a link to on your site. (Pro Tools 12.3) No lights come on until it starts to communicate with pro tools. All of the buttons do not work. The pan, fader, cycle, transport, scrub, save, modifiers work fine. I have not found out how to get the nudge function to work. This is an important feature for me. The display only gives you the bars, no switching to absolute time. The video here on Sweetwater is misleading since the oled display shows two line but this works for mackie control, but not HUI control for pro tools. You only get 4 characters for track name in Pro Tools and only one line. The ability to switch between bars and actual time only works in mackie control mode. The great thing is that if you have the Pro Tools control app for the ipad which uses eucon, it works fine with the controller and you get a lot of features with the app that HUI control does not have. For now, I am happy with what it can do in HUI emulation mode. What Behringer needs to do is just update us on their website as to what the working functions are with different daws. On my project mix. I could have switched modes without power cycling the unit. The new firmware should have a soft reboot. If you change DAWs often in your workday like I do. Powering off an on the unit to me is not good, it should be implemented in a firmware update. There is no manual except for a quick start guide. They should keep having their guy do the YouTube videos with detailed instructions on each DAW, because if you see it on the video and then when you launch your daw and it does not work you will give it a bad review ...... For the price it is definitely worth it. It worked fine alongside my project mix having 16 faders working so I will assume that I will have no problem using multiple X-Touch units since pro tools can use 4 HUI controllers. I will get my second X-Touch by next week so I will keep you updated. I wish they made the X-Touch expander .... Having a control surface with faders without having a display makes no sense to me so the second unit in the line will not interest me at all... I will probably get 3 for a 24 channel configuration.

Works surprisingly well with Digital Performer 11 straight out of the box. DP doesn't implement the MCU protocol exactly, so most actions don't match the buttons, but it's pretty easy to sort that out with MOTU's Control Surface manual (see DP's help menu) and a bit of trial and error.

Big stuff that works great:

* Transport controls
* Undo & Save
* Jog wheel (no scrub though)
* Zoom controls
* Click on/off
* Solo mode on/off
* Loop on/off
* Cycle on/off
* Jump to Marker (engage Nudge and use arrows)
* Pan
* Faders

BIg downside: Only 7 character LED for scribble strip. Incredibly limiting if you don't use very short names like "Kick", "Snare", etc.

Note that if you're thinking you can just reprogram the buttons in DPs Commands window, it doesn't work that way. What you get it was you get.

It would be unfair to give this less than 4 stars because it's not Behringer's fault. The model seems well built and a great deal, although the documentation is a joke.

However this is slightly better than using a paperweight as a control surface for Pro Tools. You can buy something small with just play controls and a scrub wheel because that's almost all you get. Although some claim to have made them work, the faders were a no go for me. Even knowing that can work, there are some functions that just don't work (master fader). Even if I could get more things to work it just doesn't make sense. If you're in my shoes you can follow me over to the PreSonus FaderPort 8 and see if that's a better fit.

I really like this controller. It has improved my workflow dramatically. But the documentation from Behringer is very poor. I would like to customize the buttons to work better with my DAW, but cannot find any details on how to make that happen on Behringers website. ALso, the template overlays which are available for the xtouch compact don't come with this unit. That is crazy stupid on Behringers part.

Got this to use with a XR18 and X32 Rack. Works good so far. Sometimes I have to restart it when first turning it on to get it to connect to the X32R, but otherwise it does what I got it for. I have updated the firmware to 1.21. Added bonus that it also works with my DAWs too.

For my main use with an MR18, it works great. Channel colors carry over, and with the motorized faders it will always match and allow parallel use with the app. Documentation is lacking, so you might need to learn the advanced capabilities from YouTube.

The unit is tall and works best angled up. A laptop stand from Ikea works great.

In Studio One, the Mackie Control protocol doesn't allow channel colors to update. And I haven't yet found a way to store the two configurations to automatically change between controlling the mixer and my DAW, which would be quite convenient.

A few other features like raw MIDI CC (for stuff like organ draw bars) would improve the rating as well. But beside those limitations it's a very functional control surface.

I got this controller when my iCon Platform M+ got dead. I immediately started regretting getting iCon at all. It felt robust, it had nice look, but appeared limited in functionality and faulty. And finally... went dead just after three months.

Behringer's machine is a fully featured Mackie Control protocol unit, just with the buttons planed a little bit differently. It feels solid, it works as intended, it's got good quality faders and buttons (Platform's faders were so springy that they hardy got to proper "0" positions, not an issue with Behringer). It feels a little bit plasticky and I'm not sure how it behaves after a couple of month/years in heavy duty conditions, because this is what exactly is going to happen in my studio. Well, we'll see!

One star minus for 100% plastic build and a wobbly and cheap jog wheel.

No manual? C'mon, it's just a Mackie Control unit, so simple, so easy, nothing to read about, just check your DAW's assignments to buttons. And yes, not really recommended for PT, don't blame Behringer here, these are weird paths of Pro Tools developers.

The setup with Logic Pro was a breeze and Behringer did an awesome job with the tutorials on their YouTube channel. The only reason I didn"t give it 5 stars is because I"m not too impressed with the scribble strips and the pan/surround rotary encoders. I get that the company wanted to stay in an affordable price point but I would"ve paid a couple extra dollars for better pan pots. I personally prefer a smooth rotating pot versus the "clicking" when I turn them. One notch to let you know that you"re centered is fine but the clicking the whole way around isn"t my thing. As far as the scribble strips are concerned, they"re a little hard to see them if you"re not standing up or have the mixer tilted on your desk. With that being said those two issues I have are definitely not a deal breaker and if you"re looking for an all encompassing but affordable controller this is the one for you! I"m extremely impressed with the build quality and ease of use at this price point.

Using the X-Touch with Cubase Pro 10. Have only been able to spend a few hours with it so far, but as far as I can tell, works as expected. Minus 1 star for minimal documentation (as in NONE!). Not a terrible problem, there's plenty of info on the web. Faders are responsive and quiet. Not quite sure about ALL of the buttons and setup, but, again, ok so far.

As far as I can tell, this X-Touch control surface is button for button, fader for fader a ½ price Behringer version of Mackie Control. The buttons are laid out a little different than the MC but they're all there and they light up. The motorized faders are a little noisy but not a problem with my applications. The large alpha dial feels a little cheap, but it does what it's supposed to do just fine.
I use this with Logic Pro X and Reason. With Logic everything lines right up, no problem. With Reason the buttons behave in strange ways. But apparently they are mapped the same way on MC and so it's just a matter of getting used to the different labels.
The more I use the X-Touch, the less I use my track-pad. I highly rate this very nice piece of gear.

This controller basically mimics the more expensive Mackie Control Pro. It does a good job of providing some bang for the buck if you're on a budget. I've had no problems with the hardware functionality. USB connect is working well, and I've also been able to connect direct via Ethernet (RTP-MIDI) on Mac, although that requires more involved hoop jumping.

The functionality you get when you use this to control a DAW is entirely dependent on how thorough the DAW manufacturer provides software support within their product. Logic Pro X is working great, and you can even provide in-depth control of plug-in parameters. However, with Studio One 3 I am missing some essential functionality (especially with regard to plug-in and EQ control). Studio One 3 is still evolving, and I am hopeful that Presonus will beef up their control surface support soon.

Do your research online to determine how your DAW supports the Mackie Control protocol, as that will determine how happy you are with using the X-Touch with the DAW. Another tip: read through documentation for the Mackie Control Pro to get tips on button functionality; the Behringer documentation is very limited.

I have been researching control surface consoles for quite some time. I like the idea of having a small format mixer but love my own outboard pre's. My choices were limited because of my strict list of needs. I could have them all in an expensive board like the SSLmatrix, Allen & Heath GS R24m or a less expensive AVID artist combination (still expensive). This was the best of all worlds at a fraction of the price. It does all of the functions that I need and only costs $599. I was concerned with build quality. When the unit arrived I inspected the pots, jog wheel, and faders. They were better than I expected. Setup was quite frustrating due to the lack of documentation. YouTube to the rescue. I run Logic Pro 9. After playing around a little I finally figured how to set up the xtouch with my DAW. Everything worked very well from that point on. My only criticism about the unit was the fader movement. They seemed a little jittery when reacting to automation. This doesn't seem to affect operability. The faders are fairly quiet too. I would recommend this console to those who need a great control surface on a budget. I would be happy to help anyone with questions.

I purchased the X-Touch to integrate into my Behringer XR18 setup. I specifically wanted the option to run the mixer with a physical control surface. The setup was fairly simple provided you are familiar with basic networking functions. Behringer have already updated the firmware to allow the X-Touch more control over the XR series of digital mixers. I appreciate this kind of support with their devices. The only things keeping me from posting a 5.0 rating are:

- documentation is sparse; fellow consumer videos found online provide support as well as through the official Behringer YouTube channel
- limited functions present; currently the ability to control certain XR functions is limited; I'm hoping future firmware updates will allow more controls
- ethernet port only; a built-in wifi client would have made this more mobile; I've used a wired to wireless adapter that does fairly well

Love having the ability to be hands on with the controls rather than using a mouse, especially when attempting micro adjustments such as panning and slight bumps to the volume slider. Motorized faders instantly jump to the positions of the sliders on the console view so that you can pick up where you left off last. I am using this on Sonar X3 Producer, and my only issue is that there aren't DAW specific overlays available for the buttons. Hopefully Behringer will release them sometime in the near future. DAW overlays are included with the Mackie Control Universal, however the Mackie is much more pricey. Overall a great addition to my studio. No regrets.

"New improved" control surface from Behringer. The motorized faders are silent. Has better Mackie implementation than the BCF2000 in Cakewalk Sonar. The only negative is the sketchy documentation. The small pamphlet that was included is the only documentation. If it wasn't for Sweetwater I wouldn't have figured out how to set this for Mackie Mode. Thus the reason for a 4 rather than 5 rating.

Yep - documentation is POOR. Unless you're using it for Logic, make sure you know what you're getting into. But for Logic, it rocks. There are a number of ways that it has improved my work-flow. For instance, the way it lets you scroll and resize the screen (when the blue light is on) on the playing field with one hand is so convenient.

That said, using 1.14 and I'm encountering glitches. For instance, when I grab the second fader - the 5th fader moves in concert with it (it doesn't affect anything in the DAW but it's disconcerting.

Also, every once in a while, faders that are automated go nuts - jittering at break-neck speed. Sometimes restarting helps, sometimes not - sometimes scrolling through some of the screen menus helps - sometimes not. Again - it seems to have no effect on the DAW, but it's disconcerting.

I'm impressed with this unit which replaced a Behringer BCF2000. I only rated this 4 stars due to the almost non existent documentation. If it wasn't for Sweetwater and a user on the Cakewalk Sonar forum I would have never got this setup for Mackie mode or enabled in Sonar. The "instruction manual" (pamphlet) and exactly same thing on the Behringer web site were useless. The motorized faders are quiet which is another improvement over the BCF2000. 3 days after I got the X-Touch setup, the BCF2000 was sold.

with protools you get to use 8 out of 9 faders
start and stop
solo mute arm
thats it
NO PLUGIN CONTROL
this is Avids fault not behringer`s

I just upgraded to cubase 8.5, followed the cubase "Remote Devises" manual for the Mackie Control install, and the X-touch installed without a hitch! On the behringer forum, I was able to download the overlay template for the Mackie Control for cubase, created the overlay, and I'm all set up. The time code display is working, faders and encoders are all flying around, so I'm a happy camper. I think those who are having problems with the x-touch are probably using older software that is not current.... could be wrong, but my install could not have been easier!

Liking this unit so far. Solid build. Mapping great with Logic in both HUI and MC Control but with PT you only get HUI so you really need to use the HUI map guide in the back of the manual for functions like writing automation (if Berhinger upgrades the firmware with Eucon support that should solve that). The manual could be better written in terms of set up as it is not fully explained. They tell you to see your DAW software guide for controller set up. Just make sure you select X-INT for both HUI input and output. Oh and don't expect the segment meters to give you a true picture. Use your DAW meters for that. The v-pots could be a little more substantial. Having said that, this is a great unit that is half the price of a Mackie Universal Control Pro. I find the faders and the buttons to be very well built. Harrison is going to add controller support in the next upgrade to Mixbus 3 and it will be interesting to see how this unit works with that DAW.

I bought this item about a week ago and have been loving every single moment of it. It literally automatically routes itself to all of my projects on LOGIC PRO X. Makes my workflow a lot smoother and more enjoyable. The only minor flaw is that it sometimes causes some overloads depending on how much i have going on. I run a home studio and usually around around 24-48 tracks having the ability to tab of 8 channels at a time is really great. Would recommend for logic users!

The documentation is sparse and it took me a few tries to get it working in Logic Pro X but at this point everything seems to be working as I would expect. Faders, buttons and knobs have a decent enough feel, a little wobbly but at this price point can't complain. I'm not sure why folks are expecting this to act as a generic MIDI controller.. I don't see anything in the advertising that would suggest it does that. It's strictly an MCU and HUI clone. The smaller footprint (than MCU) is a boon for my small desk but also means it's a lot more cramped than the real MCU. The LCD scribble strips look good if you're right on top of the unit but are hard to see from any angle. Is it as good as a real MCU? Not quite. But at 1/2 the price its excellent value, especially if you need the desk space a more compact unit gives you.

After a very long wait, I was happy to get the call that Behringer finally shipped these out. As the previous customer stated, the documentation is almost non-existent. A sparse Quick Start Guide is all you get. In addition, there was a lot of functionality that was not working.

An email to Behringer brought a quick response (the next morning) that there was a firmware update for Cubase users on their support page. It was easy to find - especially since the email included a link - but, again, little in the way of instruction on what to do once you download the file. Fortunately, Sweetwater actually had a link to software to handle that task. Once I was able to update the firmware, it's was playing nice with Cubase.

It is a well-constructed machine, and, while I've only had the chance to play with it a little since receiving it, I would give it high marks on the quality of the build. It looks great and I'm looking forward to learning more about all of its features - but that will mostly be through trial and error, as the documentation only explains how to hook it up and to "have fun."

Firstly, I knew this wouldn't have the most control over ProTools before I bought it due to ProTools not offering customization of midi devices compared to other DAWS. I mainly only cared about faders and being able to adjust pan/banking, aux/bus sends, everything else would be a bonus. I have it set to HUI through USB. I have my mac keyboard plugged into the USB in the back as well as my Komplete keyboard w/ no issues.

As of right now I don't see any editor application to change up the controls. The buttons on the Xtouch seem to control different things than what is labeled. I am unable to change the trransport counter from beats to minutes/seconds. I'm afraid of touching some buttons that seem to do nothing ProTools, but sometimes that will cause the xtouch to lock up for a few moments.

I was hoping to be able to control multiple sends to busses/auxes, and automate send mutes as well. I only seem to be able to adjust the send levels of whatever is on the Send A slot in PT. If anyone has troubleshooted this with PT please share somewhere. I do research everyday looking for new info.

The jog wheel doesn't seem to do anything in PT. What a drag, I hope this is an easy fix with firmware.

This is a well put together product no doubt, I think fault just lies within protools being able to control all of it without EUCON style.

Things that work perfectly with PT:
Faders, volume, select, banking, channel banking, mutes, solo, pan, panning of stereo tracks, basic transport control, record enable, Displaying of track names. Global view=mix window, MIDI TRACKS=Edit Window. Meters seem to work okay. Good enough to know that signal is showing on the channels. I would say theres a tiny bit of latency with the metering but doesn't matter to me. The fader volume control seems instant however. I am excited to try it with my X32 mixer at some point too. For the price, this is great.

My rating for it w/ PT as of now: 4 I expect good future updates
Overall looks/potential functionality/price: 5

You can't expect your Sweetwater salesman to know everything about every product. So that being said, here is my experience with the X-Touch & X-Touch Extenders. I ordered 2 extenders so that I could have 24 channels, all on one layer, only to find out that Nuendo / Cubase only recognizes the X-Touch and only 1 extender. My DAW sees the 2nd extender as channel count but doesn't put the names on the scribble strips, rendering it useless. What DOES work is that the 2 units see all 64 channels of my project, solo, mute, record, touch select buttons work, BUT I had to tell Nuendo that the the Extender was the primary unit and the main X-Touch was the secondary extender in order for the channels to show up on the correct units. Volume fader, pan control automation work fine. ( that's really all I need it to do. EQ, Compression and 3rd party plug in control is better done with a mouse anyway. for the money, I'm happy.

First things first, I bought this for Logic Pro X, so that's what my review is based off of. I'm going to list the Pros and Cons, starting with the Cons so you can get an idea of what you're getting into.

**VERY LIMITED DOCUMENTATION**

Right out of the box I realized that I'm pretty much on my own. There's a little starter's guide included but it's practically useless. You'll have to hop on Youtube and look up Behringer's videos. EXCEPT most of their videos cover X-Touch Compact and other variations, and not this one specifically (though there are a few). So just a warning, they'll give you the absolute basics on turning this on and getting it to show up in your DAW, and there are a couple quick ones about navigating your DAW using it... but after that you're pretty much on your own to figure things out.

For instance, I kept running into an issue where the channel strip names would disappear. Turning the device off and on didn't help. Restarting Logic didn't help. The only thing that worked was uninstalling/reinstalling the device. Due to that and a few other issues I packed this up and was ready to ship it back. Then I started looking at customizing MIDI controls (I'll get to that in a bit), and decided to see what I could do. So I unpacked it again. I ran into the track names disappearing again... and realized that I was in "plug-in" mode instead of "pan/surround" mode. That seems to be the theme of this device because of the lack of documentation. You're going to have to make a lot of frustrating mistakes and stumble onto the solutions yourself. If you do, maybe write it down on a forum somewhere for future users to find.

**PLUGIN CONTROL ISN'T AS GREAT AS YOU'D ASSUME**

Maybe the biggest deal-breaker for me was the plug-in controls. They're all over the place. Once I saw in one of the videos that you could control plugins like an analog console, I was sold. But the reality isn't that magical.

Say I open an EQ, and I want to control the parameters using the panning knobs. Logically, you'd expect the controls to be laid out like an analog EQ. > Low frequency position > low frequency gain > low frequency Q; >Low-mid frequency position > low-mid frequency gain > low-mid frequency Q... etc. That way when you're making adjustments you have the knobs next to each other and can fine tune everything at once. HOWEVER the way this is set up is > Low frequency position > low-mid frequency position > peak 1 frequency position > peak 2... you get the point.

So say I want to boost 2khz by 6dB. I have to move peak 2 frequency to 2khz... page over until I find peak 2 gain, change that... page over until I find peak 2 Q, change that... oops! I don't really like 6dB... so I have to page back to peak 2 gain and lower that... Doesn't sound great at 2khz, maybe I'll sweep over a bit... have to page back to peak 2 frequency... Q is too wide... scroll back 2 pages to get to that... It actually slows down the workflow instead of speeding it up.

With all of that said, this seems to be an issue with Logic's Mackie Control assignments and not the X-Touch itself. I was looking at some other controllers on the market and they look to be set up the same way whenever they're in plugin mode. But again, because of poor documentation I had this thing ready to return because I thought it was just a lousy setup on the unit side. The good news is you can control third-party plugins this way. But unless they have a very limited amount of options, they suffer the same problem of mixed up controls. For instance, Logic has a 3 band console EQ that works great because there's not many knobs on the plugin.

Again, that's not Behringer's fault, but these are things I wish I knew before I got this, and things none of the videos really tell you (because they're trying to sell products).

Now, you can try to program your own MIDI assignments, and if you know what you're doing you'll probably do that very good! I tried to fix the issues above by reassigning the parameters so things were next to each other. But it ended up only being able to control one EQ on track 1. So even if I added a different EQ, or switched to an EQ on a different track, it would always just control that one I assigned parameters too. That's an error on my end, obviously.

I also couldn't figure out how to make it dynamic. Right now if you select an EQ it will let you change the EQ parameters. And if you switch to a compressor, the setting will also switch to compressor parameters. I have no clue how to do that.

I also realized that if I wanted to go that route I'd have to do it for every plugin I use. So for now I'm just using the X-touch if my plugin has minimal options, otherwise it's quicker to just use a mouse.

**NOISY FADERS**

If you're doing research on this you'll probably see a lot of comments about noisy faders. Annnnnnnd... yes and no. I've only found them to be noisy in 2 scenarios so far:

1. Huge/Fast automation jumps. If you make any big or fast changes in automation then you'll get that terrible grindy sound that people are talking about. If the changes are slow or subtle, then you can barely hear them. There's also a way to temporarily disable fader movement... though I don't remember where I read that. If only there was some kind of document that came with the device that included things like that :P.

2. Grouping 2 faders together. Somehow I ended up grouping one of my tracks to the master fader. Whenever I would move one the other would move with a TERRIBLE grindy sound. In this case it didn't matter how slow or smooth I moved the fader, the other one would always grind. Technically it's not "grinding," it's jumping in very small increments... but it sounds terrible either way.

Speaking of faders! These have touch-sensitive faders. This means when you touch them they are activated, and it helps them move smoother (if you turn down the sensitivity you'll see that there's a lot more resistance when you try to move them). But you can also set it up so that when you touch a fader your DAW selects that track. It took me a few days to get that working and it was another thing I thought was either busted or non-existent. But there's a setting in your DAW that enables/disables that. For Logic I believe it was somewhere in the MIDI preferences.

**The deceptive/false advertising.**

We don't see it with this unit on this page, but if you look at the X-Touch extender you see beautiful colored scribble strips. I watched a couple Behringer videos using THIS device and they kept showing screenshots of it with colored scribble strips, even though the close-ups had monochrome strips. So I thought, "Okay. I must be missing something, or maybe I have an older mode... because mine as just monochrome..." But if you search, nobody can figure out how to get colored scribble strips on this one of the Extender. It seems to be a non-existent function. This is another thing that could be solved with documentation. Maybe it doesn't work on a MACKIE setup (according to some forums I've read)... so tell us that.


Okay. Enough complaining! What are the pros?

**BUILD QUALITY**

The unit as a whole feels really nice. It's kind of fat, and in that sense feels out of date... but the case feels nice and solid. The faders and the knobs themselves probably couldn't be any cheaper, so be careful with that. On my very first day with this thing I reached up quickly (not used to this new fat contraption on my desk) and my sleep caught one of the faders. I'm suprised it didn't snap it off, to be honest. So just be careful about that kind of thing. The case and the buttons all feel nice. The faders and the knobs feel like they're going to break off over the slightest clumsy mistake.

**WORK FLOW**

I've barely scratched the surface of everything you can do with this thing. It's going to take me a while to figure it all out... (maybe I'll write my own documentation book along the way lol). But seriously, from the moment I turned this on and fired up my first track, I was already making and executing decisions a lot faster than I was with just a keyboard and a mouse. For all the cons I just named, what you get out of it from a workflow experience makes it worth it to me.

I'll give you a good example, say I'm listening to a song and I hear a spot where the levels peak really loud. I want to loop that part so I can fix it. Normally I'd have to stop the song, find that place in the track... hit play... probably get frustrated as the cursor follows the play head... stop the track again... scroll back... make a highlight for that part with the mouse, and then listen to it on cycle. With the X-Touch, I just scroll back using the jog wheel, hold down the cycle button, scroll forward a bit and I have that section highlighted so I can loop it and focus on fixing that issue.

One of my favorite uses is buses/sends. I can set up a reverb send, and it will show up on the X-Touch. I can even select tracks from the X-Touch and send them to that reverb without having to do it with a mouse. And then I can use the faders on the X-Touch to adjust both the amount I'm sending to the reverb, and the level of the reverb itself. It makes LISTENING a whole lot easier.

Same thing with automation. Just select a track, hit write/touch, and use the faders to input the automation data. It's so stinking quick and easy.

That's just the basic, surface level stuff.

**CONCLUSION**

Do I recommend the X-Touch? Yes. I'm looking at it right now, and it looks like something out of 2005, it's so chunky on my desk. But once you get used to using it you realize it's not that big for all that it allows you to do. You are likely to run into some frustrations, and you'll have to figure things out on your own due to trial and error, but if you can make it over those humps I think you'll really enjoy this. Especially if you're coming from a keyboard and mouse. My friend told me on the first day I had it, "Give it a couple days and you'll be flying around that thing!" And I replied, "I already am, this is so easy to use!"

It's just those few little hiccups you run into along the way, and the lack of documentation so you don't know if it's user error or unit error. But if you're in a small bedroom studio and you want a good way to speed up your workflow, this will help you.

I think I had realistic expectations for this thing when I ordered it and it's pretty much what I expected. I use this with an ancient version of Cubase and all the important stuff works well. When you consider that it's... less than the actual Mackie I don't think it's a bad value. Some suggestions for the next revision of this:

-Provide overlays for the function keys on the right side of the board. They layout is different on each DAW and it caused a lot of confusion when I first started using it. On that note:

-Package with a real manual.

-The jog wheel sucks. The action is too stiff. Gimme something with some weight.

-Find a way to make the fader caps not pop off as easily.

-Get another supplier for your USB cables. The one the unit was packaged with was intermittently disconnecting. Used a known good cable and had no troubles. You'd probably have less returns if you didn't skimp on the cable.

Could have been a higher rating if the manual was more complete. There should be sections regarding setup with different DAW's. As it is, be prepared to search Youtube for explanations with the DAW of your choice. Even that will be limited to what Behringer considers popular.

I could not find any info on setting up in Pro Tools, although a handful of other DAW's were represented there was very little information on "setup"......most were created to illustrate common functions.

Once I was able to get the device communicating with my DAW it seemed to proved the basic functions I was looking for (although the X-Touch froze up a few times it is possible I haven't had enough time to work with it yet). It does provide the Fader, Pan, Recording automations that speed up your mixing sessions. Motorized faders work pretty well with some occasional jerkiness

Really the best option at a reasonable price for MCU/HUI compatibility. Overall, fairly impressed with the unit......just wish there was more info in the manual or online on getting connected and operating.

I purchased 2 years ago using with Cakewalk by bandlab. Bought a Sonar overlay and unit works good. The negative. If you write fader automation there is a loud annoying clicking/studder noise. I am in contact with behringer as this happens using other DAWS as well. I won't get extender if this issue can't be fixed. When you have clients over and they ask you whats that noise when the faders are automating is embarrassing.

I just moved to a Mac M1 Silicon, and I own 2 sets of these X Touchs for my everyday use the studio. But Behringer still doesn't have a firmware upgrade for them (almost 2 years now!) . So, they are useless at the moment.
How long should I wait for it? Should I sell them?
That's my advice for those with new Apple Silicon - check first if Behringer woke up.

I bought an X-Touch 2.5 years ago after my original Logic Control finally died. The X-Touch has an almost identical layout and can follow the same Mackie Control protocol (HUI as well) and so my fingers knew exactly where to go and I was literally up and running in 30 minutes with no new learning curve. Everything was great until a while back where I started having some (not particularly serious) usb problems.

Upon booting it would sometimes take between 1 and 3 power cycles of the X-Touch to establish full 2 way communication with the Mac. I use Logic Pro 10.5.1 at present, and my Mac mini communicates with the X-Touch via a 16ft extender usb cable. I was going through a hub, but I experimented with a shorter cable and direct input, and the problem remains. This is not specifically a Mac problem - in the middle of all this I moved up from a Mid-2010 Mac Pro to a 2020 Intel Mac mini - the problem may now manifest itself slightly more frequently, but it exists in both machine under multiple OS's

Up to this point, nothing too serious. But this is where my problems really started. I decided to experiment with the other communications protocols to see if I could get around the startup issues. I set up the X-Touch to communicate via MIDI (it has old school MIDI connectors in addition to USB). It sprang to life immediately, but when I started playing with the faders, any active faders were periodically "resisting" my moves. It was as if the faders were sticky, but actually it feels closer to the feeling when there is automation on a track in read mode, and you try to move the fader and the fader is struggling against you. So I went back to USB mode on the X-Touch and, to my extreme concern, the fader problems remained! I then spent a long time figuring out how to get the X-Touch to communicate via Ethernet, but the faders were still sticking. So I'm back to vanilla USB, and a malfunctioning machine. The fader resistance comes and goes, but a few weeks later, it's clearly a permanent problem that will eventually damage the faders. I have tried Firmware 1.15, and then went back to 1.14, and the problem persists with both versions. I have deleted both the Logic main preference file, and the CS preference file.

Behringer customer support is carried out through an operation called Music Tribe. The guys I spoke to there were responsive and friendly, but at the end of the day, I was out of warranty - (Note - register your product within 90 days to get a three year, as opposed to a one year warranty!) and although hey were curious as to why the simple programming steps I had carried out had rendered my X-Touch only semi-usable, all they could do was supply me with a list of repair shops. I checked out the first one they suggested, closest to me, and its online reviews were horrendous.

I have poured through the manual and the internet for a key combination to do a factory reset, but surprisingly I could come up with nothing. M-Tribe confirmed to me that the X-Touch has no factory reset function!

So you readers may be surprised when I tell you that I have just ordered another X-Touch from Sweetwater. The combination of reasonable price and functionality means that this is still the best option for me. I am at a stage in my career where I have no desire to spend months getting up to speed with a new controller protocol, and this thing is half the price of a Mackie Control. I will set it up the way I like it and then refuse to mess with it, take the three year warranty, and hope for the best. :).

Hope this helps someone.

I suspect a lot of reviews on Sweetwater are just shills because few products anywhere else you have honest feedback has 5 STARS or close to it for literally almost every product. When you see an average of 4 Stars for THIS product, you know its very near a lemon.

My experience was this:

*I could get it to work with Logic Pro X, Studio One 3, and Reaper. But it wasn't 100% every button working.
*The manual is terrible. You have to find basic info about changing protocols elsewhere.
*I could not get any floor pedal to control the unit and this was WITH Sweetwater help suggesting pedals
*There is no adjustment for the "throw" of the levers, so while they were accurate enough in Logic, they were not accurate on Reaper (off by 5dB) and again, Sweetwater can't help.

If you are looking for an external controller, I'd consider another unit from another company. Behringer is half-@#$# this one and giving no support. Nor is the seller.

I gladly sold it.

My likes:
It is sturdy, and what works works wonderfully. It seems to be a really good replacement to my Baby HUI
I noticed it has a usb class compliant midi controller built in so this should work with no problems for our Linux users out there.

The bad things:

1. lack of custom profiles in DAWs relies on the Mackie's midi map. Looks like all of the functions only work if you have any there X series mixers. However, very few reinvent the wheel so I imagine they are using MIDI system exclusive commands for it to talk to the X-AIR.
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2. When communicating with Behringer about obtaining the midi map this is what they had to say:

" At this time there is not a MIDI control map available for the X-Touch. As far as I know, the display colors are only assignable when connected to an X Air series mixer or an X32. This support has never been given to MC mode or HUI Mode.

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I know all of the features are not in the mackie library. That is why I wanted the list of all midi and sysex commands because I know how to build profiles for the DAWs I use. If they thoroughly developed there product I wouldn't be asking for it.

Other than that, its seems like a good DAW controller.

I would recommend this to any Cuebase/Nuendo or Reaper User.

The lights of my Xtouch are still not working with my X Touch (with Reaper+Monterey+ Macmini M1 silicon). I installed a new firmware dated Aug 22 wishing I could use my XTouch again. No way.
How long we Behringer customers will have to wait for a quite simple issue to solve? I tried to get in touch with them already but no answer at all.

I was so excited to get this thing. Long story short, Behringer is a name I trust, but they really need to provide better documentation for their products, just upgrading the firmware was a chore. This thing integrated with Ableton Live so clumsily that I foresaw this drastically slowing down my workflow. So much so that I emailed my Sweetwater Guru Mark saying that I wanted to return this immediately, then boxed it up. I guess I am too used to using a keyboard and mouse to justify this expense. It is solidly built and really neat, but it's just not for me. I am not saying that this is a bad product, but the documentation is seriously lacking and, like I said, the integration with Ableton was very "meh".

The Behringer X-Touch was something I wanted to work out, but didn"t. First thing I"d like to talk about are the instructions, or lack of. There aren"t any that come From Behringer except how to hook it up to your DAW. If you want to know what all the buttons do, you have to read the Mackie Control Surface (aka MCU) documentation that came with your DAW. I use Logic Pro X (LPX) and my documentation explains every function of every button. The good news for LPX users is that all the labels an all the buttons match up to the documentation. Almost as if the Behringer X-Touch was made just for LPX users.
The Behringer X-Touch does a lot. Don"t expect to learn it in a week. It will take time. And for the price, there"s not much to complain about. But I did manage to find a few things that made me return it.
The 3rd encoder from the left didn"t turn smoothly like the other seven. It"s just something that would have driven me crazy over time. I also didn"t like how high the unit sat on my desk. I had to keep my arms elevated to use the faders. So I stacked two keyboard arm rests in front of it so I could rest my hands. I also didn"t like that the scribble strips weren"t angled. I had to prop the back of the unit up at a very steep angle just to read the strips. This made using the faders difficult. This is something Behringer should have detected in User Testing and would have been an easy fix without increasing the price. Just put the scribble strips at an angle.
For the three weeks I owned it, I was able to access my plugins for each channel. The last couple of days, when I pressed the plugin button, the Behringer X-Touch displayed the MIDI plugins (Logic has a suite of plugins just for MIDI instruments with its own insert section). I couldn"t figure out how to get it to display the regular insert plugins like EQ, COMP, etc. I spoke with Behringer and they had no answer for this behavior.
One other thing I can"t understand. The Mackie MCU and the Icon Qcon control surfaces look amazing. They"re sleek, low profile, clean and professional looking. Of course they cost more... Why can"t Behringer make the X-Touch look like theirs? Although the X-Touch isn"t ugly and not a game changer, it"s just more cluttered and bulky looking. Price shouldn"t dictate esthetics. It"s just plastic, you can shape it anyway you want.
I think the Behringer X-Touch is a good control surface. Just a few quirky things that I would have gotten use to eventually (except maybe the encoder). I would mind buying it again, perhaps I"ll have more luck the second time. But I really do like the looks of the competition.
Enjoy your X-Touch
Halorecordings.

I've had the xTouch for just about a week now - the unit is well built with a solid almost rugged feel to it. I set it up with Digital Performer 9 first using the HUI and then with the Mackie emulation. The unit is plug'n play - it is USB compliant on the Mac and once DP was configured correctly it connected with no problem. You do need to install the firmware update from the Behringer site with the instructions in the start up guide.

Under HUI you only get about 60% functionality and there is a chart in the back of the 'documentation' that indicate that. With the Mackie emulation the unit appears to be fully functional - faders, buttons, scroll wheel, and level meters, etc..

What is really lacking and my ONLY reason for giving the unit such a low score is the TOTAL lack of documentation. You get a Start Up Guide which just provides minimal instruction on the units features and how to set up for connection type and emulation protocol - and that's all you get. The Start Up Guide has two pages of physical connection diagrams, one page of Control description (with a one page picture map of the unit), a quarter page of Software and Hardware setup, a one page HUI emulation map and one page of RTP MIDI set up.... total of 6 1/4 pages of Documentation.

I am a extremely surprised that Behringer would produce such a great hardware unit and effectively kill it by not providing documentation to realize the xTouch's full functionality. What is needed is complete mapping for each DAW and a real in depth description of the units controls and how to access their functions.

I am going to stay with the x-touch though - using the directions for the Mackie Mixer control surfaces to explore the x-touch and would hope that Behringer will understand that they have produced superior piece of hardware and crippled it with no existent documentation.... and that they will (hopefully) provide that documentation in the very near future.

As with most other reviewers thus far, we have found the hardware to be very good, well constructed, enough so that it should last for years.

Our biggest complaint is in the nearly non-existent documentation. For instance, they reference the use of MIDI over ethernet for Mac users, but a ticket into Behringer confirms it is a "future feature".

But the biggest concern is that there is absolutely no documentation about how Mackie or Hui emulation works with the various DAWs. In our case, which is the lastest version of Digital Performer, we found that setup was extremely easy, and all the basic functions work, such as faders, channel select etc.

It took very little time though, even with the MOTU Documentation in hand, to realize that many of the DP documented functions don't seem to map to the button layout.

Thus far Behringer's response has been polite but non-committal. We have stressed the importance of providing this kind of information. Surely they must have tested against all the major DAW Platforms.

So, great machine, but a ways to go as regards solid DAW integration.

My OOBE (Out-Of-Box-Experience) with the initial, finally released Behringer X-Touch unit, has been mixed. My friendly Sweetwater rep was very quick and helpful in getting my order confirmed and on the way, and the unit arrived exactly as promised and in great shape.There is not much else in the box beyond the controller and cables (power & USB). The only documentation is very, very sparse. As of this writing, the mfg. Web site provides only PDFs of the same, and some 3rd party freeware download copies.

-The pros: Provides a beautiful, solid experience for controlling MCU or HUI devices and software. I like the construction, feel and response of the buttons, faders, and the rotary controls. The LCD readouts are very clear and worked as expected or better for the connections I have established. The MIDI and USB options are great, the USB hub is very helpful. The Ethernet connectivity will allow the unit even more flexibility for long-distance or wireless connections of the control stream.

-The cons: No programming capability. Will only function as an MCU or HUI (variations of the same thing). compatible controller. Documentation of this, as well as guidance on setup, or even procedures such as updating to mentioned future implementations (firmware) are as of this writing very vague or non-existent. The built-in protocols are of course proprietary, so unless your device or software supports it, good luck adapting anything to them. And all the third party implementations vary on features and performance. All implementation is basically up to the user to figure out.

Bottom Line: Be careful, unless you want only an MCU clone (albeit a pretty one), this is not a general MIDI capable controller, as of this writing. It is a good MCU control surface, make no doubt - but I would have expected more, at least compared to Behringer's previous offerings, and in fact, to the Compact and Mini version of this exact line, which all offer controller editing as well as the MCU mode option. As do most modern MIDI control surfaces, at generally better price points per physical control option. -Jn-

Super loud clicking/rattling when the faders move.

I've attached a video of this issue - aside from this, the console works great - but if you're mixing with studio monitors or speakers, this rattling is pretty intrusive and makes it hard to focus on the mix.

Tried it with Nuendo, Pro Tools, and Ableton, and all of them reproduce this issue - it's the control surface's fault. You can even feel how wobbly/loose each fader is. Pretty frustrating.

X touch quick guide is not real manual for best operation.
I want to know if it is posible to find a complete Operation Manual. In this moment i'm not happy with some functions . X touch cannot controls pro tools ver y well. So sad.

I have received a few pieces of gear from sweetwater,and they are the best at getting me what I need!!!
The x-touch is a cool piece of gear. Everything works well if you are on the Logic DAW platform, but,I would rate it higher, if Behringer took more time and worked with other developers.
I have other DAWs that I utilize,so it has its limitations for now.... Behringer, I hope you consider this...If you use logic regularly, don't hesitate...... Thank you sweetwater, for making affordable gear, as well as high end gear available to everyone!!!!!!

I have been waiting for this for over a year, and when it finally arrived it was disappointing. It is a well constructed product (for the price) but it is missing the majority of the advertised functionality and it lacks proper documentation.

I am using ProTools on mac, there was no documentation on how to set it up but a quick google search did the trick. But after that I have realized that only the faders are what they are advertised to be, so faders, knobs, solo/rec/mute works fine, however there's a delay and inaccuracy in the signal meter which renders it useless.

The master controls (right side) is a mess! Except for the transport buttons, everything else is a hit and miss.

The majority of the buttons don't work, or just a puzzle to figure out without documentation, it took me lots of trials and errors to make the automation work, mainly by holding down the rotary knob of the track and then selecting the automation mode. How does Behringer not document this???

Only 2 of the 8 functions buttons work, the Pan works, and it has a toggle between right/left pan for stereo tracks, which again is a trial and error discovery. However, the EQ, Plug-in buttons don't work which for me was an important feature.

Also, I was not able to get midi learning in ProTools plugins to work.

The jug wheel feels cheap, but this is expected for the price, however, my main complaint is that I can't use it to nudge, move clips/selections which is mainly what I am looking for in a wheel.

All in all, the hardware is well constructed but the lack of documentation, the missing functionality and the false advertising is the main reason I am giving this a 1.5 stars

I hope this helps

First off, I owe Sweet Water a huge thank you as their free support team was able to at least get this thing turned on and some faders moving. Behringer still has not responded to my support request. Aside from that, about 80% of the features we were promised this C.S. would have do not operate for me. It doesn't matter which DAW I use, or which protocol I set it up with. Firmware is updated etc and I'm still missing very basic functions. There's no way to program or customize the controller. Don't let the marketing and pretty pictures fool you. In fact, my C.S. looks nothing like the pictures. Almost everything is blank and the majority of the buttons do not even light up, let alone control anything. I will be boxing this thing up and shipping it back soon if there's not a major firmware update in the next week.

If you want inconsistency and constant desync issues then by all means purchase away.

I purchased the Xtouch and 2 extenders for a total of 24 faders, more like 24 fakers lol I followed instructions perfectly, watch several YouTube videos, read through a few forums, crossed my fingers, clinched my butt cheeks and all that, still these would not function as advertised. I will have a YouTube video up soon showing exactly what happened and why I'm returning them.

They look sweet set up, they feel nice and for brief moments when they worked it was exciting. But, that was short lived as they would just stop working when ever they decided too.

Either grabbing a c24 to try now or maybe something else I haven't decided yet. All I know is the Xtouch is not the answer for anyone. It prob works well if you only have the Xtouch I'm thinking. But who wants 8 out 24 faders working lol.

Buttons don't do what they say. Some do nothing. Only good for moving faders on a mixer really. Behringer blams all the DAWs and takes no responsibility for their product. Faders are loud when following automations. Trying to assign a fader to a parameter in fl can't be done without knowing how to write code. Behringer won't provide that. Not sure if it can be done in protools either but I cannot figure it out. I could write a whole bunch more but it is not worth my time.

1. Worst manual ever
2. No editor software for a controller???????????????? They do have editors for all the other cheaper controllers. sigh......for this product they want you to make setting within DAW, well the hell do I do that with hardware?

I should read all comments before I buy it. This X-touch is not work for Pro tool. It work only stop and start, mix faders. Other that, not working.

I requested a recommendation for a control surface to be used with Studio One. I like the DAW so far, and wanted a little more traditional interaction for mix and transport. This was the recommendation. NOTHING works. Firmware has been updated. NO interaction with the DAW. Documentation with a piece of gear like this is deplorable. I can't give review on any of the specific functions or interface because none of it works.
$600 disapointement, which has never been my experience from Sweetwater before. Their recommends have always been spot on and trustworthy. Caution in the future.

I was one of the first to place and order and was really looking forward to getting the x-touch. What I got was something that didn't work. Yes the faders moved but almost everything else didn't work. It doesn't work under HUI only a limited amount under Mackie Control. All those nice buttons on the right side of the unit for automation etc., none of them work. Literally, the faders work and the basic transport buttons (play, stop, rewind, fast forward, record) that's it.

Behringer has promised a firmware update but has no release date. There is no way to program the buttons, no manual other than a terrible quick start guide.... I'm really surprised Sweetwater still lists this product on their site it's that bad. Unless Behringer performs a miracle quickly, I'm sending this back