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need small mixer with direct outs

crashkahuna

Can anyone suggest a reasonably priced small mixer that has direct outs so I could have a personal mixer of my drum kit (or small band) that could send pre-fader signals for each channel to a multitrack recorder or main board for live show. Thanks.
January 2, 2006 @07:38pm
cmchamp

Allen & Heath MixWiz 16:2
January 2, 2006 @08:54pm
Ted

Makie's Onyx and 1642/1604 VLZ Pro mixers have direct outs as do Soundcraft's M-Series and Folio FX16 mixers (pre/post switchable, nice) as well.
-Ted
January 2, 2006 @09:01pm
cmchamp

Ted:
The VLZ's aren't pre fader or preEQ unless internally mod'd.
C.
January 2, 2006 @09:36pm
Ted

Oops, sorry about that, I overlooked the part about them needing to be pre-fader. Thanks for pointing that out.
-Ted
January 2, 2006 @09:49pm
crashkahuna

Thanks for the info. I also saw on this forum that you could plug into insert plug on a channel to the first click and tap that signal as a direct out. I tried it and it works. Does anyone know the level of that signal - ie would I still need to boost that to get to recording level? -- Steve
January 3, 2006 @03:39pm
cmchamp

It's line level, however, because the plug isn't inserted completely into the jack, that is not the most dependable method as the slightest movement can break the connection.
A better method for this is to make a special cable to use on the insert. Remember, however, use of the insert as your recording tap means you get completely dry signal. No EQ.
If you want to go the Pre EQ route, the Mackie Onyx with the FireWire option would be more dependable.
C.
January 3, 2006 @03:51pm
ravendmb1

Behringer Eurorack UB2442FX-PRO- that has direct outs and is cheap. Sweetwater doesn't carry Behringer though...
January 7, 2006 @05:51pm
Joseph Hanna

Originally posted by cmchamp
Ted:
The VLZ's aren't pre fader or preEQ unless internally mod'd.
C.

Really???
The inserts on our little 1202's (at least the first four channels) are pre fade and eq. Unless someone's gotten in their at night and modded something?!?
January 7, 2006 @06:43pm
cmchamp

My 1604VLZPro is post fader, post EQ Direct out.
C.
January 7, 2006 @07:23pm
Ted

The inserts are pre fade and EQ. It's the direct outs we were talking about, which the 1202 doesn't have.
-Ted
January 9, 2006 @05:50am
vish_morwal

Allen and mixwizard 16:2 is the best..
March 18, 2013 @02:40pm
TimmyP1955

Studiolive1604. Analog direct outs (dunno the pickoff point) and direct to computer via FireWire. Or wait for the Baby X32 to come out.
March 26, 2013 @01:37am
supernova777

the onyx series mackie mixers all feature pre- direct outs on db25 snake connections!!!!
the onyx 820
the onyx 1220
the onyx 1620
the onyx 1640
all feature direct outs
for the "i" series mixers, only the 1640i has em.
I think that the direct outs can be modded too! but it doesnt say anything about this in the "original 1220" manual but it does mention it in the "1220i" manual.
from the 1220 manual:
"the signal at the recording outs comes just after the input GAIN control, and before the Low-cut switch,
INSERT jacks, and EQ. Thsi way you can EQ a channel, connect a compressor or other dynamics processor to the INSERT jack, and adjust the channel fader to suit your live mix, but it has no effect on the signal routed to the recorder."

from the 1220i manual, re: modifcations:

http://www.frontendaudio.com/Mackie-Onyx-1220-EQ-Modification-p/7278.htm
here u see someone clearly advertising they can do a mod to the original 1220..
December 7, 2013 @07:49pm