Ableton Suite 8.2 Reviews
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from United States
March 8, 2012Music Background:
Ableton=Awesome!Ableton Live 8.2 is really something special. I was up and make music in almost no time at all. It just works.
January 14, 2012
abletonso much to learn
from Eugene, OR
January 14, 2012Music Background:
audio engineering, music technology engineer, computer programming, producer.
Live ROCKS! The Suite is a big dissapointmentI've owned Live since v6 and I love it. Its my primary sequencer. I've owned the Suite now for a few years. I bought Live 7 Suite because the sound demos sounded good and wanted a good synth set with drums. The sounds are awesome, but unfortunately the interface and feature set of Abeton's instruments are horrible. I'm usually really liberal with my ratings and give products good reviews, but I can't let you buy this without knowing why you shouldn't. Its so bad that I never even use it. I only gave it 1 1/2 stars because it sounds good, but I don't use and wasted a lot of money on it so I can't give it more then that.
First off, you can't set up MIDI templates with their synths. You can do global MIDI mapping in Live but it only maps to the one instance of the plug in and not to the selected current selected instance. You have to re-map all of the controls each time (or not because too much of a hassle).
Second, you have to drag and drop sounds or double click them and it takes a second to load because it has to reload the plug-in. Most instruments have a next and prev button and when you change patches, it doesn't have to reload the VST/AU plugin. This is REALLY important. It will slow you down a LOT!
Third, they stuck the instruments in a HUGE list will all of the effects. Its WAY too cluttered! The instruments should have had their own separate page (you know you you can switch between the effects and VSTs... that's nice. Stick with it.) Its just too slow to browse through instruments/patches and apply effects.
Fourth, the Suite costs too much and it is not compatible with other sequences. If your going to drop money on some instruments, you better be able to use them in a difference sequencer AND Pro Tools.
Over all, I majorly regret spending the hundreds of dollars I did on it. I made one track with it and went back to my fall back synth, Rob Papen's Predator. That synth is AWESOME for MIDI mapping and it sounds great! Do yourself a favor and take the plunge on Native Instruments Komplete. You'll never regret it.
When I first started using live, I thought of it as primarily as a DJ/loop-based performance instrument and not as a studio production tool. As I delved into it though I soon learned it was that and a whole lot more.
The first thing that caught me by surprise was that while it does use loops, it didn't limit me to playing back loops in a normal method. I could use the whole loop or any part of the loop, and I didn't need to start the loop from the beginning but could start playback from any point. This greatly expanded the creative options I had when using loops as the starting point for a song.
Then I learned how, through the use of warp markers, I could effectively vary the rhythm ever so slightly. This again allowed me to use loops that may have been used before by someone else but with a whole new sound. So once again, the program enticed my creativity instead of stifling it.
The Live Suite version comes with a wonderful collection of VIs and sample libraries that, when fully installed and unpacked, occupies 48GB of hard drive space. To top it off, the modeled instruments were co-developed with AAS, who are known for their physical-modeling VIs. So it comes with plenty of content, including high-quality effects and instruments, that should keep you busy for a while.
What Live calls clip envelopes allowed me to create unimaginably complex sounds from the drabbest of sterile atmosphere/pad sound. These allow you to create volume swells and gating effects, change panning of the sound, and most importantly of all, to change the pitch of parts of the loop as it plays back. This allowed me to create melodies and/or arpeggios from long sustained notes or chords.
Live is one powerhouse of a DAW! It includes all the things I'd expect from today's packages, such as VST/AU effects and instruments hosting, and goes well beyond most others on the market. While I know this is still a wonderful tool for live performance and DJs, there is so much more that you would not expect.