New hard drive problem

[TimmyP1955]

Dell 5150, latest bios. I want to start playing with some DAW software. So I installed a new drive: SATA 500Gig, three partitions (normal, backup, DAW). I set the drive up and copied my old drive over using Akronis Disc Director. Here's my problems:

1) When I boot the computer, it thinks the drive is Drive 0, and it wants drive 1, so it won't boot. If I "hit F1 to continue" it boots to the drive and all is well. If I go to the boot menu, none of the three partitions are shown. (The only link selections on the drive are for data rate - I've tried both.)

2) My old drive had 75 Gigs on it. When I look at all the files & folders, the first partition drive should indeed have 75 Gigs on it. But according to Windows, it has 150 gigs on it, which is the entire partition. (The bios says something about RAID, and does not seem to have a non-RAID selection, but I did not have this problem with the old drive.)


Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give.

[htiarw]

There's a little ambiguity in your post, but...

BIOS does not read partitions, it just lists devices. The boot menu will only show hard drives you have installed. It has a boot sequence which means the first device on the list will be designated device 0 and its boot sector will be loaded.

First off, how many physical HDDs do you have in your computer?

t thinks the drive is Drive 0, and it wants drive 1

This is a mess. From the sentence, I would assume you have two hard drives and the one you want to boot is not being set to the first boot device. If this is the case, then you need to go into bios and change the boot sequence.
However, if you mean that you have a single hard drive but 2 or more partitions, and that it is trying to boot the wrong partition, then you will either have to edit your MBR or copy the loader files over (in the case of 2k/xp, you need to copy ntldr and boot.ini and probably reconfigure boot.ini).

Rewrite that sentence using device or HDD for a physical device and partition for a partition.

Your old drive had 75GBs used. Did you make an image of it with Acronis?
"which is the entire partition" -- Do you mean that you made a 150GB partition on the 500GB drive and then tried to copy the old drive onto it? Or do you mean the old hard drive partition was 150GB but you only had 75GBs used and used Acronis to copy the partition onto the new hard drive?
Copying a partition is different than copying files. The partition will be the same size as it was on the old drive, free and used space.

You really need to be more clear in your posts

[TimmyP1955]

There's a little ambiguity in your post, but...

BIOS does not read partitions, it just lists devices. The boot menu will only show hard drives you have installed. It has a boot sequence which means the first device on the list will be designated device 0 and its boot sector will be loaded.

First off, how many physical HDDs do you have in your computer?

This is a mess. From the sentence, I would assume you have two hard drives and the one you want to boot is not being set to the first boot device. If this is the case, then you need to go into bios and change the boot sequence.
However, if you mean that you have a single hard drive but 2 or more partitions, and that it is trying to boot the wrong partition, then you will either have to edit your MBR or copy the loader files over (in the case of 2k/xp, you need to copy ntldr and boot.ini and probably reconfigure boot.ini).

Rewrite that sentence using device or HDD for a physical device and partition for a partition.

Your old drive had 75GBs used. Did you make an image of it with Acronis?
"which is the entire partition" -- Do you mean that you made a 150GB partition on the 500GB drive and then tried to copy the old drive onto it? Or do you mean the old hard drive partition was 150GB but you only had 75GBs used and used Acronis to copy the partition onto the new hard drive?
Copying a partition is different than copying files. The partition will be the same size as it was on the old drive, free and used space.

You really need to be more clear in your posts

Dang, I pride myself on clarity - can't win 'em all.

Originally there was one 80GB drive, single partition.

I put the 500 in as the second drive, and used Akronis to prep it (three active 150 GB partitions).

I then used Akronis to clone the 80's contents to the first partition of the 500.

I then removed the 80 and put the 500 in it's place.

There is now one drive only, the 500 w three partitions. When I look in the bios settings, it shows the drive as 0. When I power the computer up, it says "cannot find drive 1 SATA".


Thanks

[htiarw]

Is there an option to emulate PATA on SATA in your BIOS?

I know that some boards/bios have problems booting a SATA drive. Look for an option along those lines. This could also be related to RAID being enabled on your SATA devices. Was the old drive PATA?

[Ladia - Audeum]

Hi !
From what I see it's just a setting in BIOS away from working. You need to disable RAID and set it to see your SATA as native/IDE. Then make sure that your boot order sequence points to your 500 GB drive first.

BUT !
You are better off to use the 80 GB drive for your OS and DAW ,the 500 as a Audio drive, It will increase the performance of your DAW.
If you can put it back , do it.
That would be the ideal scenario for running your DAW.

Have fun !

[TimmyP1955]

Hi !
From what I see it's just a setting in BIOS away from working. You need to disable RAID and set it to see your SATA as native/IDE. Then make sure that your boot order sequence points to your 500 GB drive first.

BUT !
You are better off to use the 80 GB drive for your OS and DAW ,the 500 as a Audio drive, It will increase the performance of your DAW.
If you can put it back , do it.
That would be the ideal scenario for running your DAW.

Have fun !

There's no setting to disable RAID, just two methodology options. But perhaps I should try the other anyway.

This is a multi-use machine, hence the multiple partitions. The 80 HD is too small for all my personal crap. When I get serious about recording, I'll get a dedicated machine.

I'll have at look at htiarw's PATA suggestion - I have no idea about the previous drive.

[htiarw]

There's no setting to disable RAID, just two methodology options. But perhaps I should try the other anyway.

This is a multi-use machine, hence the multiple partitions. The 80 HD is too small for all my personal crap. When I get serious about recording, I'll get a dedicated machine.

I'll have at look at htiarw's PATA suggestion - I have no idea about the previous drive.

Ladia just reiterated what I said, same suggestion. (PATA == IDE)

Is your PC OEM built? If so, could you give me the model number?
If not, do you know the model number of the motherboard?
I just want to find the BIOS manual so I can tell you exactly where and what the name of the setting is -- that is, if it is the problem.

[ecc83]

Err? Personal crap going on one of the 150G partitions, ok?

So you could still put the 80 gigger back in to run just os and audio app' more than big enough.

But don't mind me. I fix amps.

Dave.

[itsplayed]

Make sure the device that's first in the boot sequence is SATA drive 0 and I agree with Dave.....He's right about how you should setup the system.
I would have also performed a fresh OS install on that new drive instead of an image transfer.

[Ladia - Audeum]

Hi !
It looks like everybody says the same thing except in a little bit different lingo. I think that everybody agrees that you should use the 80 GB drive for your OS and programs. The 500GB drive for your session files, movies, music or whatever you are using. If you don't have the 80 GB drive anymore $40 for a new 80 GB will fix your problem .

Have a great day !

[Bops2000]

I had same issues, not realizing sata 0 was an option.

[TimmyP1955]

Dell 5150 DM501 Bios A07

Boot options are SATA (selected), IDE (not present), CD-Rom, (Discette is off).

Drive 0 = SATA 0 (This is the 500GB)
Drive 1 = SATA 2 (no drive here)
Drive 2 = PATA 0 (DVD drive)
Drive 3 = PATA 1 (DVD writer)

SATA Operations: RAID Autodetect/AIA = RAID if signed drive, otherwise ATA (this is the default setting that was in use with the 80GB drive that I had 75 GB of data on). (Could my new drive be a "signed drive" without my knowing it? How do I "unsign" it?)

At turn-on the computer wants to boot to SATA 1, but there is no SATA 1.

There does not appear to be a way to make it look for SATA 0, or to make the 500GB drive appear as SATA 1.

[itsplayed]

Dell 5150 DM501 Bios A07

Boot options are SATA (selected), IDE (not present), CD-Rom, (Discette is off).

Drive 0 = SATA 0 (This is the 500GB)
Drive 1 = SATA 2 (no drive here)
Drive 2 = PATA 0 (DVD drive)
Drive 3 = PATA 1 (DVD writer)

SATA Operations: RAID Autodetect/AIA = RAID if signed drive, otherwise ATA (this is the default setting that was in use with the 80GB drive that I had 75 GB of data on). (Could my new drive be a "signed drive" without my knowing it? How do I "unsign" it?)

At turn-on the computer wants to boot to SATA 1, but there is no SATA 1.

There does not appear to be a way to make it look for SATA 0, or to make the 500GB drive appear as SATA 1.

No, I believe your problem stems from the fact that you performed an image transfer, including the GUID and MBR from a PATA IDE disk to an SATA disk.....making Windows confused as to the boot volume.

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