Good fx for vocals

[Lylith]

Hi Everybody,
I am new here and can't figure out what forum to ask this question, so any help or pointing of direction to another forum will be appreciated.
I just got the souped up version of Pro Tools M-box but find that the efx are not all that great. Any suggestions as to what package I might buy for some rich reverbs, chorus, delays, etc for creating lush and haunting vocals? I am just migrating from Logic and have been happy with their efx so I am bummed. It seems like everyone points me to Renaissance (Waves) packages but they are more for mastering. New ideas?

Peace,
Lylith

[djui5]

verb, I like renverb and sometimes Reverb1 can work.
Delay, I like the stock digi delay and echofarm. They have a PCM-42 plug that is suppost to be killer..haven't used it though.

The ren waves package isn't intended for mastering at all. It's a mixing set of plug'ins. It contains the L series limiters, which some very incompetitent people use to master with and is highly NOT recommended by me, but overall is a great mixing tool. I use their plug-in's all the time.

[Lylith]

Thanks for the reply! I was hoping to find some package of efx by third-party that would do the trick, any ideas?

[Lylith]

djui5, TML...really nice lookin' studio!

[djui5]

Originally posted by Lylith
djui5, TML...really nice lookin' studio!

Thanks!

I gotta take that off there though. I turned in my keys Friday and will be doing strictly freelance work from now on.

I'm also sierously considering putting in my own mix room here to do ITB mixing for clients worldwide.

[Lylith]

Hey djui5,
I don't know what ITB is???

[djui5]

ITB means "in the box".It's when you do a mix entirely inside your DAW, whatever that may be.

What I do is mix entirely inside Pro-Tools, and bounce to disk. It's working very well for me. :)

[Lylith]

djui5, AHA! So it looks like you have a HD system? I am on LE and can't run the TDM-only Echofarm. Bummer.
How are you getting good chorus fx for vocals? I am doing "goth" music and can't quite describe the layered, textured, heavily overdubbed chorus-y delayed vocals I want...have you ever mixed to achieve that sound?

[djui5]

hmm..I haven't mixed Goth music before, but have listened to a bit of it.

I'd try using a combination of the metaflanger and a couple of different renverb settings. You could also try adding enigma to add more flavor.
Also adding a stereo delay with 20ms on the left and 25ms on the right, each having a slightly different eq would help a lot. Send this signal to some good verb too...wooohoooooooooo

[Lylith]

djui5, thanks very much for the tips, I will try it. Also let me know if/when you are up and running with your own mix room. In a few months, I'll have some new music ready to ship over to a pro for more than I can do. You can try your hand at a new genre.

[asa]

Consider duplicating your vocal tracks and compressing the living daylights out of one set. That set should also be the one that gets chorused heavily and also routed to an aux channel for delay.

Let the other set of vocals breathe a little more and be a bit less processed. Blend the levels of the two.

Hope that helps.

[djui5]

Lylith,
I'd love to even if I don't have my own rig up and running. I'm pretty sure in a few months I'll have my own mix room though :) Things are picking up quite a bit...

[panhead]

hi randy
good luck!

:bounce:

[djui5]

Thanks pan :)

[Lylith]

Asa and Djui5,
Thank you both for your suggestions for vox. When I get back from my vacation in SF, I'll be back in my studio trying out these techniques.

[asa]

Anytime. Let us know how it goes.

[djui5]

Lylith,
I sent you a PM :)

[Lylith]

Djui5,
I never did get the PM. Try on lylith@vampyremusic.com.

I've been so busy in school that I haven't seen much of my studio of late. But soon!