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pcdaher
12-30-2001, 10:35 AM
Are Protools LE, DIGI 001 and a PC enough to start a small production? Is or it pure illusion?

:confused:
:rolleyes:

michaelhoddy
12-30-2001, 01:02 PM
Well, 24 tracks of audio, and as many plug-ins as your CPU will allow. Many of us started out with 4, 8, or 16-track analog machines and crappy outboard, and the Digi is far more capable than a lot of that. I would have given an arm and a leg for 24-track capability for even 5 times the money 10 years ago. It's fine for demos and such, as the only limiting factors there are your CPU, and also the fact that it doesn't offer much in the way of sync options. For a 1-box solution, you can't beat it, especially considering what the entry-level price for 24-track setups was even back when the ADAT first came out.

I think the determining factor for recording equipment these days really comes down to the talent, creativity, and chops of the person using it. I've heard really great Digi 001 mixes, and really crappy ones. No amount of money spent on gear will guarantee a good mix.

pcdaher
12-30-2001, 03:17 PM
The problem is just that the company prioritizes Apple. Who uses Windows doesn't get all the updates facility, besides some plugins. You all right in talk in the talent, which is the main middle to obtain good music. My question was convenient so that the discussion regarding the care that Digidesign has with MAC is a thing which consider lamentable. There isn't complete support for Windows, then that the company discontinues for this platform.

michaelhoddy
12-31-2001, 12:32 AM
You're right about PC support. Because Digi has the TDM/hardware-based market pretty much all to themselves, especially with the demise of PARIS, they have been able to dictate the terms of everything they do. For instance, I'd love a mid-level PT setup that fell somewhere in between the Digi 001 and TDM capability-wise, but it won't happen. Why? Because it would eat into TDM sales. This is precisely the reason the Digi has such limited sync capability. So Digi's marketing choices are often clearly in their own best interests at the expense of their customers. It's maddening. But since they're the industry standard, they can do it.

PT started out on Mac, and the precedent has thus been set that serious PT users will get a Mac. But you could say the same thing about MOTU and Digital Performer and the Mac, or Sonic Foundry's ACID and the PC, or whatever.

Incidentally, I run a G4-based Mac setup with MOTU hardware and DP3. I also run a PC with a Digi 001, PT LE, ACID, and Sound Forge for smaller projects and so I can use ACID. I've managed to turn out some great mixes with the PC and the Digi 001, so I think it definitely can happen.

twitch
01-02-2002, 04:33 PM
Hi pcdaher,
I just wanted to share my experience with using Digi001 with you. The 001 is a powerful yet easy to use system. I was playing keyboards for a Latin band and we had gotten a decent advance from the record label. We really wanted to purchase a ProTools Mix system but it wasn't in the budget. We needed to purchase keyboards, mics, electronic drums etc. We were basically putting a studio together. We really liked the way the ProTools software was set up and the ProTools LE software is the same as the Mix system's so we bought the Digi001. To make a long story short, none of us in the band had ever recorded using a computer based system or ever really used ProTools before. We were determined to record the album ourselves. We learned recording techniques and the ProTools software as we were recording the album. It was completely recorded and mixed on the Digi001 system. (it was mastered at the record label's studio) That album was nominated for a Grammy at the 43rd Grammy awards. That is a testament to the power and intuitiveness of the ProTools software. It would definitely have been to our advantage to have the DSP based ProTools Mix system because we pushed the Digi001 to it's limits but if the budget is a 001, the potential for anything is there.

Hope that helps. I'm a sales engineer here at Sweetwater so if you have any questions, feel free to call me direct or email me.

Sincerely,
Eric Rodrigue
1-800-222-4700 ext. 1278
eric_rodrigue@sweetwater.com

pcdaher
01-02-2002, 05:11 PM
I come of classical formation, where didn't touch in anything, to don't be in my instrument. I won a festival years ago and was engraving by an expensive idiot, since then I thought about fiting a small studio at home to learn something about this. I am coach in computer science there are years and only now beginning to send my musical to the side technological material. I use DIGI, yes, but am still learning to use Protools. What did me come in in this discussion went to company interest lack by Windows. As well as I can't buy something more complete than DIGI, can't also buy a MAC. But I have been doing things that please me and please to other people. It is punishment I don't have all of the resources that Protools offers in MAC as host.
Sorry me by my English.:)

blacko3788
01-30-2002, 09:53 AM
There are many small productions out there not using the non full blown protools and they're doing fine. I'm using Logic Audio and my friend is using Paris and another using digi 001. We are all making money at it, and it all sounds great to me. Make sure you use good gear such as mics and compressors and pre's. And I believe that digi 001 is compatible with Protools if you want to have your session mixed or mastered at a place that uses protools 24.

rigboone
02-13-2002, 11:43 PM
pcdaher-
sell everything you own and buy a Mac.
Your English is fine.