Post your pics

[Foreverain4]

got any pictures of you studio. post em. let see them..



i will post mine later today. i have some revisions i am doing on acoustics. i am installing polycylindrical diffusors. i want them to be in the pic too. ;)

[gmeister]

This may be a stupid question but how do you go about doing that? My nephew just got a digital camera and I'm going to have him take some pictures of the studio.

[Foreverain4]

when you are typing a message, scrool down. it is the place that says "attach file". just point to where it is on your computer and it will upload it to this site...

[gmeister]

Thank's it may be a while before I can get pictures taken but will post when I do.

[nughuffer]

this is all i got, im just a beginner.. im attaching a file on here

what i have is 2 technics SL-1210MK5's, Denon DNX800 mixer

[DaNOC]

Peace here is my Studio

plus check my site and music www.ijmaenmt.com all done with MPC, Yamaha O2R V2 without software. But I just got Cubase SX, Ableton LIve, and Reasons 2.5 Ableton LIve is so easy to use, its a hot program, I learned how to use it in one day. It does all the Automation with the pencil, its hot you have to use it and see, don't sleep on Ableton LIve. I have the perfect set up.

[DaNOC]

Peace
If Drastic is going to get a computer he need to get one build from the ground up instead of going to a straight out store and buying it for $1500 that is to much for a pc he might as well get a G-5Mac.

I got a Pc for $900.00 here is what I have on my pc and it's a Bare Bone case.
1. Pentium 4, 2.6Khz 800 bus speed
2. three firewire ports
3. six usb ports
4. one ethernet port
5. One Gig RAM, expandable to another one Gig, total 2gig Ram
6. 80 Gig Hard drive
7. 120 Gig hard drive
8. CDRM Drive
9. CDRW Drive, ($43.00 which I bought and installed myself )
10. Windows XP and other software

what I run on it is Cubase Sx, Ableton Live, Reasons 2.5, Recycle , easy.

[djui5]

Here's a shot of me in front of a SSL 9000J 80 channel. It's a bad scan...sorry.

[djui5]

Here's another shot of me being goofy..

[Foreverain4]

randy, is that board yours? very nice.

[Foreverain4]

here is my studio before the new acoustic treatment.


http://www.therecordinghouse.com/Studio.html



i only have rough pics with the new stuff.

[Foreverain4]

another

[djui5]

I wish!
The SSL 9000J and the 4048 in the second picture are both at the studio in Orlando where I work sometimes. I love the 9000J and would love to own one..but not yet....

I went to your studios website. It's a really nice place. I'm impressed. I'd love to work there. Wish it was here in Phoenix, cuz I'd be booking it. I'd love to see the acoustical treatments when they get done...

[AVDork3000]

Looking at these pics of you guys' studios is cool. im VERY impressed. I'll find a pic of mine and post it. But, even when i do, you probably wont wanna waste your time looking at it. Its like a dog house compared to what i've seen in you guys' studios.

[djui5]

Dillon,
Who's studio is that in your web link? It looks like a really nice place to me.

[soundworx]

Hey Foreverrain4

I went to your website and I must say it looks really nice. Then I got to the services page and dropped my jaw. I couldn't believe you are only charging $30/hour. I hope that doesn't include an engineer. Even if it doesn't, that is still dirt cheap IMHO. Unless I'm missing something here. May I suggest you read "Ruthless Self Promotion in the Music Industry". I think this book could help you get in the mind set to charge what your business is worth.

Mick Haensler
Soundworx

[Foreverain4]

well, in all honesty, i have very low overhead. all my equipment is payed for. future purchases will be paid for upfront. lights and such are very cheap as i share with a factory. so, i can provide a better product at a lower price. i do know what you are talking about though. people may not think you know what you are doing if you dont charge a certain amount. i am not in it for the money though, i want to make music. i am pretty selective about who i record too. i just want to be honest and make quality recordings avaliable to the average joe that has talent. also, if you charge too much, the prospect may find it cheaper just to get in to recording themselves. you can buy a 24 track recorder for $2000 and take your time making stuff right. why would i pay that to go to a studio? anyway, that is my thinking....

[soundworx]

You may not be in it for the money but the guy down the street might be. He may need to feed his family with his studio. by charging less than what a product is worth you hurt the whole industry. In order for the guy down the street to compete he has to come in line with what you are charging as does the guy across town. Which means he has to work a lot harder. I know you said you are pretty selective about who you record but in the next line you said you "just want to make quality recordings available to the average joe". Which is it?

Seriously, think hard on what you are charging. You don't do anybody any good by undercharging. If you had a VS1680 and a $100 condensor in a bedroom than I'd say $30/hr would be too much. You've got pro gear and if you're putting out a pro product, charge for it!!! I still recommend the book.

Mick Haensler
Soundworx

[jas]

Foreverrain4,

Don't let others discourage you. If you've done a cost analysis on your operation and $30 puts you where you need to be...after rent, taxes, repairs, etc...then the laws of Supply & Demand rule the day. It's not your problem if your competition is debt ridden and need to charge $50 for the same product. I do know one thing holds true, and you will have to assess it for yourself--"If people are knocking down your door for your product, your prices are too low." That's one of the things I learned.
BUT
You know your business better than anyone else. Good luck and stay one step ahead of your competition.

jas

[elsteve9]

FREE MARKET!
FORGET THE POOR! THEY HAVE NO CAPITAL!!!

Ack.
Sorry.

:-)
I agree.

And he's right. If your doors are being knocked down by those who you actually WANT to record, raise your prices.
But it seems to me that your focus is recording those you WANT to record.
But if your too busy, prices go up.
'Wealth of Nations'
-Stephen

[djui5]

This brings up a good subject. I myself have been having problems with people not having budgets for recording and having to lower my prices and the prices of studio to compensate, and sometimes it's insulting. I'm working with a guy in a home studio who isn't paying me any more than I used to make cooking in restaurants, and to me it's insulting. I'm doing some really good recordings..actually suprising that we're getting the sounds we are with his equipment, and I'm getting robbed in the process, while in the mean time this guy's getting his stuff recorded for dirt cheap. The problem is that I can't seem to find any other work around here so I need to work with this guy just to have money. I think this industry as a whole has changed with the advent of all these home studios and a lot of people feel like they shouldn't pay as much anymore because they could do it at home for cheaper, and the sad part is that a lot of people can get good recordings at home for quite cheap. Frustrating if you ask me.

[Foreverain4]

Originally posted by soundworx
I know you said you are pretty selective about who you record but in the next line you said you "just want to make quality recordings available to the average joe". Which is it?


Soundworx



please read the line again in my orignal post.

[soundworx]

Sorry, missed the part about "with talent". I guess I was being a bit judgemental. My apologies Foreverain4. I'm now off the soapbox.

[Foreverain4]

no offense taken.

[AVDork3000]

Originally posted by djui5
Dillon,
Who's studio is that in your web link? It looks like a really nice place to me.

I wish that studio was mine. I just got that pic off of google and stuck it on my website. I probably shouldn;t be doing that actually. But the truth is.. its not like anyone goes to my website. Plus the only people that really know about it are my friends and they know what my real studio looks like.

[djui5]

I wouldn't recommend doing something like that. What if the studio owner of the studio you took that pic from found your site? Not a good situation if you ask me. Just my advice....
I feel inclined to also tell you that lying about yourself to impress people is kinda like riding a bike backwards down a crowded street. Yeah..you're riding the bike..but sooner or later you're gonna wreck....
Don't take anything I said as a personal attack..just trying to offer some advice.

[Faderjockey]

I think you should be charging more because you owe it to yourself.
I rasied my rates never looked back. I've had maybe one or two people pass. Good weeds the bad ones out. But I've also gotten allot more newer clients becuse you look like you know what you are doing. Plus product holds up.

Your place looks great and I think nothing to do with overhead but just for your talent/skills.

Good luck

I'll try and get a pic of the control room up.
The one on my site is sort of old and we gotten some new toys since then.

[djui5]

I think I need to raise my rates also...

[soundworx]

Originally posted by djui5
I'm doing some really good recordings..actually suprising that we're getting the sounds we are with his equipment, and I'm getting robbed in the process, while in the mean time this guy's getting his stuff recorded for dirt cheap. cheap. Frustrating if you ask me.

You can't call it robbery when you've got your door open and have invited the robber in for coffee and to look over the stuff he's gonna steal. Don't resent the person your working for. He's not forcing you to work for peanuts. I really feel everyone in this forum should read "Ruthless Self Promotion in the Music Industry" by Jeffrey P Fisher. Do yourself a big fat favor and get this book.

BTW, I just saw Skip Gammell in a production of "The King and I". Before the show he chloroformed the entire cast. For the next 2 hours he ate them slowly in front of the audience. I heard the show got good reviews......... (glasses up)...TO SKIP GAMMMELL!!!

Mick Haensler
Soundworx

[djui5]

I do understand he's not putting a gun to my head....I tried to get more money out of him and he said he couldn't pay me more. He's an old school line of thought and think's the engineer is the enemy. There's a lot more to the story than I stated. I probably shouldn't be talking about thing's like that on here anyways..just wanted to vent some frustration. I've found that a lot of people in this area want you to work for almost nothing and expect some sierous quality. I tried to pick up that book you mentioned but Barnes and Noble didn't have a copy so I'll order it offline sometime soon. Thanks for the tip.

[DAS]

I'm not sure how "helpful" this is, but I'll throw my 2¢ in here. Most studios battle these types of problems. I've found that there's a couple of things you can try to do that will help.

1) Really, really do all you can (within reason) to deliver a great product and make sure your clients are satisfied. This means following up with them later, checking in etc. It's important for you and your clients to know that you approach your work with a high level of professionalism and integrity - that you _really_ mean to give them a great product.

2) Once #1 is true market and sell the heck out of yourself. I mean really hit the pavement. Run ads, make offers both in terms of good deals (specials) and promises and statements about what you'll bring to the table that the other places won't. I've found that you really have to hit people over the head with this stuff. The customer has to really believe they can get something at your place that they can't (or at least aren't likely to) get elsewhere. Cover lots of ground. Make lots of sales contacts. Promote the heck out of yourself. Once you have people coming in on a regular basis continue to work the sales angle hard. You'll find that you won't have to compromise on price as much for the one knucklehead who just doesn't get it.

It's simple supply and demand. You need more demand, which makes it all about the sales. As much as we like to think we are all great engineers, and that our product speaks for and sells itself it just aint so. That's a fallacy. Learn how to sell. I mean really _learn_ how to sell and do it ethically. Or hire a sales professional to sell for you. It really will make the difference.

[djui5]

Originally posted by DAS

1) Really, really do all you can (within reason) to deliver a great product and make sure your clients are satisfied. This means following up with them later, checking in etc. It's important for you and your clients to know that you approach your work with a high level of professionalism and integrity - that you _really_ mean to give them a great product.


This is something I strive for. All my clients have left the studio very happy, not only with the product, but with my personality and style of work.



It's simple supply and demand. You need more demand, which makes it all about the sales.

I think that's my problem...no enough supply.

Das,
you made some great points and your post was quite needed. Thanks.

[soundworx]

Originally posted by DAS
As much as we like to think we are all great engineers, and that our product speaks for and sells itself it just aint so. That's a fallacy. Learn how to sell. I mean really _learn_ how to sell and do it ethically.

That's what "Ruthless Self Promotion in the Music Industry" teaches you how to do. Face it, none of us got in to this to be salesmen. Unless you enjoy it, selling sucks. But DAS is right on the money, it is something we all must learn how to do. Learning how to sell will not only bring more business in the door but will allow you to charge more now that you know how to properly represent your product. Also, expanding your product line can make a huge difference. I've added a few bread and butter services that have really made a difference. My studio not only pays for itself now, but I can take a small(very small) salary and create a small fund for new purchases. All this since November.

Mick Haensler
Soundworx

[edhunt]

What are the "bread and butter services that have really helped?

Just curious as I am two years from being able to quit my day job.

Edward

[soundworx]

Hey Edward,

On hold telephone messaging and teaching music. While the latter is not that lucrative it does pay off the business debt. Besides, I really enjoy it. On hold telephone messaging on the other hand can earn you up to $500 for a few hours work. And just recently I started doing video production. Mainly legal depositions which pays about $250 for two hours work.

Mick Haensler
Soundworx

[edhunt]

thanks, it sounds like I need to read another book

Edward