View Full Version : Vintech 1272 A/B to neve 1272. Sound good?
12-27-2002, 01:21 PM
I like the idea of low price, low maintenance of Vintech 1272. I haven't got to hear one yet nor have i heard the neve 1272. I've used 1073's many times and like the results. 1272 is supposed be the same pre. Any experience and info would great!
12-28-2002, 09:05 PM
Geoff Tanner of Phoenix Audio used to work for Neve, so I trust his knowledge in this area. Here's a post about this topic that he put in rec.audio.pro. Hope it helps.
Search Result 1From: Geoff Tanner (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Subject: Re: opinions needed on Neve mic pres View: Complete Thread (12 articles)
Original FormatNewsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Date: 2002-10-14 08:56:49 PST
"Tom Hartman" <email@example.com> wrote in message
> in article 3DAABFE0.8DD72294@mercenary.com, Fletcher at
> Fletcher@mercenary.com wrote on 10/14/02 9:00 AM:
> Hmmm..Fletcher...If you talk to Averil, and the Neve guy that works (or
> used to) with you, they will tell you it's the same preamp as a 1073,
> without the EQ....
And, if he does (which I sincerely hope he doesn't) that is a load of bull
Also, claims that 3104's sound like a 1081 can be added to that pile.
It simple terms, the 1073 (and most of the early variations) have three
amplifier stages which are necessary because of the limitations of the pre
stage of a 283/4.
The 1272 has two gain stages and, as I have detailed in some length earlier
in this thread, most guys rack mounting 1272's do it wrong so that they
don't even sound like a 1272... let alone a 1073.
The statement is incorrect as a blanket statement and is only partially
correct at gains below 50dB if the 1272 module is configured correctly...
which they seldom are.
You can see the whole thread here
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=6PBq9.32779%24OB5.2628322%40newsread2.prod .itd.earthlink.net&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D1272%2B1073%2Bgroup:rec.audio.pro%2Ba uthor:geoff%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3D6PBq9.32779%2524OB5.26283 22%2540newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net%26rnum%3D1
12-29-2002, 12:12 PM
What's above is right on, as I recently learned. The 1073 has an additional amp stage which allows it to produce additional gain above 50dB. Which is probably also why the 1272 is often reputed to sound "rougher" at higher gain settings than the 1073.
The 1272 wasn't even originally designed as a mic pre. But the 1073 and 1272 do have that similar Neve character, just in differing amounts.
If you like the 1073, you'll LOVE the Great River MP1 NV and MP2 NV, which share a similar circuit design. Starts at $975 for a single channel, $1950 for two. I think it's one of the best single preamps one can own because of its quality and flexibility.
12-29-2002, 05:36 PM
Thank you guys very much!!!
This helps me in my decision tremendously!!!
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