Anyone seen this happen in Pro tools?

[Melbguy]

See attached. Once l click ok. Playback and editing is ok. So l have no idea...

[Melbguy]

Ah its cool. I worked it out....

FYI : if anyone comes across it...

I was demo'ing Inspector XL(which was version1.3) I ended up buying it. Later found out the bought disc version was 1.2.
So therefore re-downloaded 1.3, installed it and that error doesnt come up any more. Yay:)

The session had the demo 1.3 version, so it must had been conflicting with the 1.2 disc version...

Cheers,
MG

[dpd]

So, what do you think of InspectorXL so far?

[Dave Burris]

So, what do you think of InspectorXL so far?

I use it a lot with Cubase, but I'm glad I bought it before it was purchased and now sold by Roger Nichols.

[Melbguy]

Yeah you got a good price for sure.

I like it because its something l can rely on. Ive also calibrated my monitors to 83dBSPL. So that helps to to know even without looking at the meters to when the mix is too loud or soft.

But l did put up a promo using the k-12 system of Inspector XL. Recorded the spot live from the station and got to see the "transformation" of my file.
Slammed. But because l gave enough headroom it sounded "loud" and unmodulated.

Def best buy when it comes to software metering for what l do..

Thanks again guys for yr inputs

MG

[Melbguy]

Oh any of you guys gone lower, like k-14 for radio?

Much difference if you have?

[dpd]

I've done some K-14 and K-20 music stuff and our audio processor really trashed the dynamics - actually going opposite of the music. A big crescendo in one piece actually got squashed. Completely sucked the life out of that tune.

I don't blame K-system. I blame our processor for not allowing it to come through. Glad I didn't set it up.

[Melbguy]

I guess thats just really it. It comes down to what processing is done once you send off the final piece. There seems to me thats there's really a fine line between how low you go and how hard you push it.

Do you push it hard? If you do the online processing will mess with it and perhaps turn it down.

Do you do it lower with enough head room? But then you leave it in the hands of the radio processor. Will their set up mess your mix, more than likely.
Its a catch 22. A case of trial and error.

Plus if your work is for a network, then more than likely each station will have its own unique sound. So doing between 20 and 100 different mixes to cater for each station is a no can do.
So you just gotta do the best you can do. Happy with the sound, and perhaps try not to listen to it on the radio lol. Otherwise it may do your head in.
Also if the spot goes live, then your in the hands of the Op panel as well as the radio rack...

I think lm likeing the fact that do your voice eq/compression. Maybe add compression/eq to various audio parts/music and leave the stereo master alone. Have nothing on it. Or at the most just a very very small minute amount of limiting, like barely anything to stop any over peaks. Have it sit around k-12/k-14 and let the radio do its thing and squash the hell of of it. Rather than doubling up your amount of compressor/limiting...

Plus if you are converting your file(like me) to mp3. I find that this adds about a 1db increase. So that too is something to consider in yr mixdown before converting.

Good extract from Bobs Katz book..."what radio does to your mix" There are before and after shots of a file. Interesting reading.

Just thoughs....now time for coffee:)

[dpd]

"what radio does to your mix"

completely screws it up! :D

Ever trudge through one of Orban's Optimod manuals? The 'more/less' feature on about half a billion settings - the whole thing makes my head swim. I was a part-time studio engineer for local public radio station for over 20 years. I never had time to master the art of processing, so I pretty much set them to do as little as possible which was a good thing, due to the fact that we broadcast primarily a classical music format. We added a 2nd station, primarily for talk and started to process a bit more aggressively. The new, full-time engineer has that processor amped up quite a bit and that's the one that can, and does, destroy a perfectly good mix.

I don't squash mixes, period. I use the limiter to get up to 0 dBFS, but just, and protect.