New toys

[Audioholic]

Digi Just released a demo version of their Guitar amp simulator called "11"

Also Waves has just released their Gtr 3 emulation.


I have demoed the digi 11, I think the modern distortion sound is very nice, thats about it though based on the demo at least from my perspectice, however I recon the full version will have more bells and whistles. I am working on demoing Gtr3 from wavs, but that is looking mighty fine, possibly the best of the sims I dare say based on vids and demos.

[Tarktones]

I just grabbed these demos as well but haven't had the chance to fool around with them. GTR3 looks pretty impressive, I must say. From what I heard in the promo media, I'm not too impressed with Eleven. I mean, it didn't sound like an alien's concept of guitar tone, but I had a hard time believing a real amp was making those sounds.

I'm curious how easy it is to link up MIDI foot controllers with the stomp boxes and presets on GTR3. IK offers the Stomp I/O as a pretty appealing option but at a higher price point (this isn't as drastic when you factor in WUP costs).

[Audioholic]

Yeah I demoed 11, it is leaving much to be desired, no efx, no easy stereo rigs. I really liked the Modern distortion amp sound, that was excelelnt, but all else I wasn't super impressed with. I am trying to demo Gtr 3 but its like craking the government code just to get demos to work for wavs, I hate their complicated protection system, such a pain. however I think their product looks very very interesting. a hefty price tag though

[Audioholic]

Here is one preset on 11 I do like alot, its their modern amp, and I actually think the distortion sound is quite pleasant, and it is pretty easy to play, almost like an amp, almost, when playing around.

anyway, please excuse my sloppy playing, just hit record and messed around

http://www.energiestudios.com/Files/11%20Test.mp3

[brianbfw]

In my opinion, there still is not a substitute for the real thing.

I understand that miking a real guitar amp cranked can be a real pain, but for me, i've never heard anything that is the real thing. Probably the best out there i'm my opinion is the Hendrix IK multimedia product, which comes close.

i've tried pretty much everything, using high quality tube pre's, etc, but when i A/B a track with amp sim -vs- the real thing, to me, there is still no substitute.

I'm glad for you comments, I was getting excited about 11. when inspirations hits @ 3AM, i'd love to have an amp sim that could "get it".


i've used gt2 and it's pretty good, but if i'm producing a rock track where the guitars really are out front, i always find myself going back to miking a guitar amp.

my 2 cents
brian
brian

[Audioholic]

Yes, just keep in mind this isnn't a sim versus the real thing debate. whenever someone talks about a sim, you can garauntee there will be posts about how sims suck versus the real thing.

Having spent countless money and time searching for my tone with amps, going through them like kleenex, I find the instant gratification I get with sims invaluable. Specially when I have a day to finish a track, I don't have time to mess with micing my amp, and processing the crud out of it to sound huge. and in the mix, it is very hard to tell. So I love amp sims for what they do, and with the new wav coming out, they should keep on improving.

[brianbfw]

I'm actually starting to get pretty excited now about these new amp sims.

My main DAW is DP, but with the price drop i got the new Logic 8, which has a guitar amp sim in it. Out of the 70 or 80's sounds, there are about 20 very very good and useable sounds. I recorded some tracks and compared them to tracks i've recorded with an amp, and when put in a mix, there sound very nice. I have to admit, i was hard to tell what was a sim -vs- the real amp.

it can be a real pain moving around the mic just to get the perfect sound, or even having to chain the mic.

these sims are getting really close, not to mention it's great to spend $700 on software -vs- 5K on amps.

Unofortunately for me, from the online demos, the Eleven seems to be most realistic sounding. I'll give it some time after the full release comes out, but if it's not too expensive, i may get LE just for those sounds.

now that i listen the waves does sound a little thin. I actually like the raw mono tone sound that eleven gives. really sounds real.