1224: What happened?

[Ernie5]

What ever happened to the MOTU 1224 core system? It's in the 2002 Sweetwater catalogue [I think], but not on the site. Also not on the MOTU web page -- although it can be gotten to. Does Sweetwater still sell it? I'm in the market for an audio interface, can't afford the 1296 & so forth and so on. Just curious. Does it work w/the new Macs? Will it work w/OSX?

[BradLyons]

Ernie,

Thank you for the post. This is one reason why we do not post prices in our ProGear directory... things change all the time. The 1224 was discontinued by MOTU some time ago. It was a great interface, but due to the success of the 896 with mic-pres, it just didn't make sense any longer. Now, I don't know if that is the real reason but it sure makes sense to me. What is your budget and what are your needs? I see Ted Hunter is taking care of you, you're in good hands.... he'll get you into something that will suit your needs.

[Ernie5]

Oh no -- Ted's killer. I just hate swamping him with all of my questions (although I think I asked him too). I'm still in the PTLE vs. DP3 vs. Logic quandary -- being mostly a multritrack user, but wanting the ability to learn & use midi (esp. for virtual instruments) in my near future. Shame about the 1224 as the 1224 & 896 are completely different beasts.

[BradLyons]

Don't worry about asking us questions, that's what we do :-) You'll get more direct and accurate answers through us than researching around the net in all honesty.... Yeah, the 1224 really was a wonderful product, I'm sure we'll see a new version of it or something with the new PCI-424 card.

[Ernie5]

Yeah, but searching around the net is fun. Anyway, I think you've opined that Logic isn't the best program for multitrack recording that it's a "composition" program. Care to elaborate?

[sonusges]

Hi Brad
I want to repeat Ernie5's question .
Do you happen to know if 1224 is going to be OSX compatible ?
Thanks

sonusg

[michaelhoddy]

The PCI-324 card will be OSX compatible (as is the new PCI-424 card). The 1224 can be used with either of these, which would make it compatible with X.

[Ted]

I'd actually be surprised if a new version of the 1224 comes out...with the new improved converters in the mkIII version of the 2408 being on the "low end" of the MOTU price spectrum, and the 1296 at the "high end"...I'm not sure how much need there is for something like the 1224 in the family.

But that's just me...

-Ted

[BradLyons]

Ted,

Yeah, you do have a point. What would REALLY make sense now is to see the 24i re-introduced in a new form. Now with real-time monitoring and faster computers, the 24i really would make sense!

[Ted]

Yeah, I'd like to see that too.

-Ted

[Ted]

...and now we've got it (well, soon)...the new 24I/O:

http://www.motu.com/english/motuaudio/24IO/body.html

and the new 192:

http://www.motu.com/english/motuaudio/HD192/body.html

Keeps getting better and better!

-Ted

[cmchamp]

Ted & Brad:
Ernie's question from 8/31 "Yeah, but searching around the net is fun. Anyway, I think you've opined that Logic isn't the best program for multitrack recording that it's a "composition" program. Care to elaborate?" never got answered. I'd like to know as I'm an avid user of DP and am just wondering about where to go with OSX or if more and more plug-ins will be cross vendor compatible with the Apple Audio Core driving the apps?

Thanks

[Ted]

I don't know exactly what the future holds as far as plugin compatibility is concerned...I'm a DP user myself and am going to wait a good long time before I upgrade to OSX to make sure all the plugins I've grown to rely on are compatible. As for Logic not being a good multitrack program, I'm not the one who said that...I know there are plenty of people out there using it as such, though, so I'm not sure I agree. I've heard it said that Digital Performer isn't good for multitrack recording, that it is more of a composition program...I actually use DP mainly as a multitrack recorder and use almost no MIDI, so I don't agree with that either. It may be because Pro Tools started off as an audio program, while DP and Logic started off as sequencing programs...but they've all come far enough that I feel pretty comfortable recommending people use whichever program appeals to them most (with the possible exception of Pro Tools for heavy-duty MIDI stuff, where it still has a little catching up to do).

-Ted

[cmchamp]

Thanks Ted!
I kinda figured that may have been why no one replied. I've been a MOTU user since '87. I don't have any third party plugins but will probably be looking at 'SpectraFoo' as my first. Had the demo for a recording project, and it saved me some time on some things, as well as litting me re-EQ my performance venue! Probably won't switch now that the 424 card is out!