Alesis Sr16

[TheDaze22]

I am trying to use my Alesis Sr 16 in Pro tools so far I ahve been only using it on Audio tracks , the problem I have is that the pro tools clikc at 113bpm and the Alesis click at tempo 113 are close but are not in sync and after 2 bars there is evident out of sync, Is this a problem with my alesis or do i need to adjust the setting , The click is simply out after 2 bars even though they are both the same number, I haven,t figured out how to program reason drums so can only use the Alesis , any advice would be really appreciated
Thank you all very much for your time
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[5454stevef]

I am trying to use my Alesis Sr 16 in Pro tools so far I ahve been only using it on Audio tracks , the problem I have is that the pro tools clikc at 113bpm and the Alesis click at tempo 113 are close but are not in sync and after 2 bars there is evident out of sync, Is this a problem with my alesis or do i need to adjust the setting , The click is simply out after 2 bars even though they are both the same number, I haven,t figured out how to program reason drums so can only use the Alesis , any advice would be really appreciated
Thank you all very much for your time
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Wow, that sounds like a huge discrepancy between the two clocks on the machines... I've had zero success syncing my old HR-16 to Pro Tools thru midi, but a possible work-around might be, if you have PT 7, to use Beat Detective on the audio drum track to make a custom tempo grid which the click will then sync to. Assuming the clock discrepancy is a fixed value, the tempo map should be very constant, but the tempo values of the regions won't be the same as what's on the drum machine. that should be no problem as long as you're happy with what you have on the drum machine.

Of course, if you're trying to sync to audio that already exists, this is not going to be helpful at all. In that case, what I'd do is record the audio from the drum machine and then use the Time Compression/Expansion tools to make it fit into the grid. You could even cut it up into loops and re-arrange it. You might experience some artifacts but in most cases with percussion it's not very noticeable.

This is a ridiculous amount of work for something that should work with no problem, but as I've said I have never gotten my Alesis drum machine to sync to Pro Tools thru MIDI. I don't like it enough to spend an enormous amount of time trying to make it work, but I've tried everything I know how to do and it simply doesn't work.

Having said all that, once you get your chops up on MIDI programming in Pro Tools your drum machine will probably be relegated to gathering dust anyway.

It's not very hard to set up drum tracks in Reason if it's used as a plug-in in Pro Tools - the way I've done it in the past is to make a MIDI track with the drum patterns on it, which you could either obtain by recording MIDI off the SR-16, manually programming, or playing using a controller (I've had little success recording from the pads of my HR-16 in real time, don't know what the problem is). You could just record short clips of each pattern in the song, then edit them into MIDI regions and arrange them in Pro Tools on the grid.

Then you would create a stereo auxiliary or instrument track with an instantiation of Reason as a plug-in, which should automatically ReWire into Pro Tools. Assign the output of the MIDI track to the "Redrum" instrument in Reason, being sure to use the same channel. The MIDi track should now control the Redrum drum module, and you can mix it into PT using the fader on the auxiliary or instrument track, and the pan controls on Redrum. Some virtual instruments have quite a bit of latency, so sometimes you have to compensate for this by either moving the MIDI track forward a bit, a giant pain because now the regions don't line up with the grid, or setting an offset of some number of samples so that MIDI plays slightly ahead of the audio. One way I figure this out is to make a short audio recording of the virtual instrument output with zero offset and then measure how many samples late it is, then apply that figure to the offset. that usually gets pretty close.

SF

[5454stevef]

I am trying to use my Alesis Sr 16 in Pro tools so far I ahve been only using it on Audio tracks , the problem I have is that the pro tools clikc at 113bpm and the Alesis click at tempo 113 are close but are not in sync and after 2 bars there is evident out of sync, Is this a problem with my alesis or do i need to adjust the setting , The click is simply out after 2 bars even though they are both the same number, I haven,t figured out how to program reason drums so can only use the Alesis , any advice would be really appreciated
Thank you all very much for your time
D

There's another thread on the "DAW" forum that addresses this issue too - in this case the poster was able to get the SR-16 to slave to PT using Midi beat clock, something I've never been able to get to work with my HR-16. I had simply assumed you must have tried that, but maybe not.

SF

[bassplayer60]

I am trying to use my Alesis Sr 16 in Pro tools so far I ahve been only using it on Audio tracks , the problem I have is that the pro tools clikc at 113bpm and the Alesis click at tempo 113 are close but are not in sync and after 2 bars there is evident out of sync, Is this a problem with my alesis or do i need to adjust the setting , The click is simply out after 2 bars even though they are both the same number, I haven,t figured out how to program reason drums so can only use the Alesis , any advice would be really appreciated
Thank you all very much for your time
D

Did you have the heirarchy set up...and let each unit know which one is the master and which one the slave. The slaved unit will obey the master's command...and go by it's click track.
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