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laboroflove
12-10-2006, 08:54 PM
here lately i have spent extra time on checking my mixes on computer speakers and jam boxes,my yamaha ns 10s and some home speakers.the effort has made my mixs more clearer when i carve out some bass .i get in my truck and my right channel is usually bass heavy and my speakers fart out on me.i dont know whats going on.regular cds dont do it.well some do.other cds that are in the volume war is loud out 20 on my deck and my cds i have to turn to 26 to equal them and i dont mind that at all.i mean i can always make it louder later if i wanted to through limiters but im more into the volume of zeppelin and the early 90s stuff.i was just wondering through mixdown if they cut out different frequencies in the lows for each speaker like you would a guitar panned hard and left to seperate their sound more.anyway thx

Smithcok
12-11-2006, 06:13 PM
Sounds in general like a "you need your stuff mastered".

Discrepencies in (bass) frequencies, stereo imaging, volume/compression/limiting can all be alleviated by a good mastering engineer.

If you want your mixes louder, I often end up recommending to people that you use a good quality compressor in the mastering chain. A decent amount of people I have known concentrate too much on limiting, when the high and low peaks of the mix are very inconsistent. By compressing first, everything will end up louder.

You could not be hearing those bass frequencies in your mixing room because of room nodes. Also, usually people say "if you can hear bass on your NS10s, its too loud" :P So make sure you check your mix's accuracy with the 10s.

analoguepilot
12-12-2006, 04:10 PM
any bass on those crazy yamahas and your car speakers will fart. i used to mix and record sunday services for my old church on a pair of ns10s. the first thing i learned was to back the bass guitar off and carve out the eq from the kick drum. if you cant get you mixes mastered by a pro, try adding some compression or a an expander or compander, whatever the case may be and use it to tame your mix. as far as the volume ratio between the cds and your mixes- when you mixdown try pushing the volume of your mixdown up alittle- compression with a little master track eq'ing may help you do this- watching out for any digital distortion cus that will kill your mixdown.

laboroflove
12-15-2006, 06:02 PM
do alot of ppl use expanders?i have been using upward compression since ive posted this and also notched out alot of frequencies in the 60 to 150 range.just enough to not kil the lows.and that has helped me alot.and you can hear bass on the yamahas and be ok.i mean just not terribly loud.whats a compander?

analoguepilot
12-16-2006, 08:28 AM
a compander is a compresser linked with an expander. its useful for compressing certain frequencies and openening other frequencies in the mix or on a single channel. i love using a compander on my mixdowns cus i can really tweak the output to the tonal ranges im looking for. they also come in handy on acoustic guitars...

laboroflove
12-16-2006, 02:06 PM
so could i insert a compressor like the waves4 after the expander on my master fader in pro tools instead of linking.?i understand a expander makes loud passages louder.why not use a de-esser on a certain frequencie to make something not stand out?or tame it.i guess every song has its own treatment.lol and yes that would prob work well on acoustics ill give it a shot.

analoguepilot
12-16-2006, 03:55 PM
experiment with the compressor then expander vs expander than compressor and see what kind of frequencies you end up knocking out either way... its really- what sounds good to your ears? the reason why we praise sir george martin's productions of the beatles is cus he used what he had and went more with what his ear told him than what the apple studios textbook said to do... and if you want some killer fret noise / finger squeek stuff- compress the heck out the your mids and lows and expand the highs... fun stuff! :D

laboroflove
12-16-2006, 05:22 PM
thx for the feedback ill try that on my guitars also i like to hear the pick scrape across the strings.